[R-sig-ME] Test of random effect in lme4
Anna Renwick
anna.renwick at bto.org
Thu Mar 11 17:25:57 CET 2010
There is quite a bit on the message board. For example this string:
https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-mixed-models/2008q2/000743.html
Dr Anna R. Renwick
Research Ecologist
British Trust for Ornithology,
The Nunnery,
Thetford,
Norfolk,
IP24 2PU,
UK
Tel: +44 (0)1842 750050; Fax: +44 (0)1842 750030
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefano Leonardi [mailto:stefano.leonardi at unipr.it]
Sent: 11 March 2010 16:03
To: Anna Renwick
Cc: r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R-sig-ME] Test of random effect in lme4
On 11/03/2010 16:30, Anna Renwick wrote:
> There has been a lot of discussion previously whether we should remove
> random effects based on LRT. The reason is that you added the random
effect
> based on your study design and whether it is significant or not it should
> remain in there. I am not sure there is any definite rule and maybe it
> depends on your study and personal view point.
>
> Dr Anna R. Renwick
> Research Ecologist
> British Trust for Ornithology,
> The Nunnery,
> Thetford,
> Norfolk,
> IP24 2PU,
> UK
Can someone please give some literature references about this
discussion. I am very interested.
According to my experience in Ecology it often happens that someone
needs to understand if a variable or factor is
important/relevant/significant in determining some other variable.
I would like to understand up to which point the arbitrariness of the
experimenter is considered tolerable.
Thanks
Stefano
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