[R-SIG-Mac] [External] Re: [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows

[Kasper Daniel Hansen]

quartz is the graphics layer of OS X (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)). This is why the
"native" Apple device is called quartz() in R. This is a super nice device
IMO.

Xquartz is a port of X11 to quartz. To use XQuartz on OS X you have to use
the x11() device (or features which uses X11). So basically, they have
nothing to do with each other.

On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 8:15 PM Richard M. Heiberger <rmh using temple.edu> wrote:

> Your are correct.  I have been using quartz() on the released intel build
> of R_4.0.3 on the
> Mac Silicon.  The misbehavior I reported is about quartz(). R graphics
> defaults to quartz()
> when no device is specified.
>
> I was unaware that XQuartz and quartz are unrelated.   quartz is faster
> and allows pagination.  XQuartz is very slow, you can watch it draw each
> panel, and each bar in a bar graph.
> XQuartz does not have pagination.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Prof Brian Ripley <ripley using stats.ox.ac.uk>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:26 PM
> To: Richard M. Heiberger; Peter West; r-sig-mac using r-project.org
> Subject: [External] Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows
>
> The quartz() device has nothing to so with XQuartz.  Quartz is part of
> macOS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)
>
> Using XQuartz betas is not supported: it is very unfortunate that they
> are persuading users to install a beta version.
>
> You have not followed the posting guide and posted the sessionInfo().
> We are left to guess that you are using an Intel build of R under
> emulation, but homebrew does have (a rather broken) arm64 build of R
> 4.0.3: we do not support arm64 builds on R < 4.1.0.  My understanding is
> that in the CRAN release of R 4.0.3 only the X11() device and parts of
> Tk interact with XQuartz, although other parts may in other builds.
>
> On 09/02/2021 17:33, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:
> > Is R on M1 really talking to the REAL XQuartz?  After I opened XQuartz
> from the spotlignt, it acknowledged the xterm window, but not the R
> graphics window.  When I closed the XQuartz
> > app, the R graphics window was still open and functioning.  dev.cur()
> says "quartz".
> >
> > just checked on my older intel mac.  same behavior.  the Xquartz.app
> menu doesn't list
> > the R graphics window, and the R graphics shows "...", not "XQuartz" in
> the menu bar.
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: R-SIG-Mac <r-sig-mac-bounces using r-project.org> on behalf of Richard
> M. Heiberger <rmh using temple.edu>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:56 AM
> > To: Peter West; r-sig-mac using r-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External]  Behaviour or Quartz windows
> >
> > When I draw a 9x7 panel lattice it displays 12 panels, then sits there
> until I resize the window. then the rest appears.  When I display another
> 9x7, it too sits at 12 panels.
> > When I Cmd-left for the previous display, the current one vanishes
> entirely.
> > When I send the command again, after it sits I resize the window.  Now
> the full second display
> > is visible.  When I Cmd-left followed by Cmd-right, the second display
> is lost.
> >
> > I am using R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10) on Silicon Mac Big Sur 11.1 from
> inside ESS.
> >
> > XQuartz doesn't report correctly.  On the MenuBar it doesn't say
> "XQuartz".  Instead it shows a
> > small Apple Icon which has no information when clicked.  When I search
> using the MenuBar Spotlight icon, it tells me Xquartz 2.8.0_beta1 and
> offers to update to beta3.  Clicking on XQuartz.app in the Spotlight menu
> gives proper XQuartz information in the upper left corner
> > of the MenuBar.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> > ________________________________
> > From: R-SIG-Mac <r-sig-mac-bounces using r-project.org> on behalf of Peter
> West <pbw using pbw.id.au>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:35:59 AM
> > To: r-sig-mac using r-project.org <r-sig-mac using r-project.org>
> > Subject: [External] [R-SIG-Mac] Behaviour or Quartz windows
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I�ll just confirm the odd behaviour of the Quartz window in Big Sur 11.2
> R 4.0.3 GUI 1.73 on M1 silicon. I have installed the beta3 version of
> Quartz. In my case I have to CMD <- twice, then go forward to get the next
> to last plot.
> >
> > Are these Quartz windows constructed using native MacOS graphics or
> XQuartz?
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > �
> > Peter West
> > peter.b.west using ehealth.id.au
> > �that they might touch even the fringe of his garment. And as many as
> touched it were made well.
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Best,
Kasper

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