[R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows

Peter West pbw @end|ng |rom pbw@|d@@u
Wed Feb 10 04:35:25 CET 2021

R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10)
Platform: x86_64-apple-darwin17.0 (64-bit)
Running under: macOS Big Sur 10.16

Matrix products: default
BLAS:   /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.0/Resources/lib/libRblas.dylib
LAPACK: /Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Versions/4.0/Resources/lib/libRlapack.dylib

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attached base packages:
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loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
[1] compiler_4.0.3 tools_4.0.3 

> On 10 Feb 2021, at 4:26 am, Prof Brian Ripley <ripley using stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> The quartz() device has nothing to so with XQuartz.  Quartz is part of macOS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)
> Using XQuartz betas is not supported: it is very unfortunate that they are persuading users to install a beta version.
> You have not followed the posting guide and posted the sessionInfo(). We are left to guess that you are using an Intel build of R under emulation, but homebrew does have (a rather broken) arm64 build of R 4.0.3: we do not support arm64 builds on R < 4.1.0.  My understanding is that in the CRAN release of R 4.0.3 only the X11() device and parts of Tk interact with XQuartz, although other parts may in other builds.
> On 09/02/2021 17:33, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:
>> Is R on M1 really talking to the REAL XQuartz?  After I opened XQuartz from the spotlignt, it acknowledged the xterm window, but not the R graphics window.  When I closed the XQuartz
>> app, the R graphics window was still open and functioning.  dev.cur() says "quartz".
>> just checked on my older intel mac.  same behavior.  the Xquartz.app menu doesn't list
>> the R graphics window, and the R graphics shows "...", not "XQuartz" in the menu bar.
>> ________________________________________
>> From: R-SIG-Mac <r-sig-mac-bounces using r-project.org> on behalf of Richard M. Heiberger <rmh using temple.edu>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 11:56 AM
>> To: Peter West; r-sig-mac using r-project.org
>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External]  Behaviour or Quartz windows
>> When I draw a 9x7 panel lattice it displays 12 panels, then sits there until I resize the window. then the rest appears.  When I display another 9x7, it too sits at 12 panels.
>> When I Cmd-left for the previous display, the current one vanishes entirely.
>> When I send the command again, after it sits I resize the window.  Now the full second display
>> is visible.  When I Cmd-left followed by Cmd-right, the second display is lost.
>> I am using R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10) on Silicon Mac Big Sur 11.1 from inside ESS.
>> XQuartz doesn't report correctly.  On the MenuBar it doesn't say "XQuartz".  Instead it shows a
>> small Apple Icon which has no information when clicked.  When I search using the MenuBar Spotlight icon, it tells me Xquartz 2.8.0_beta1 and offers to update to beta3.  Clicking on XQuartz.app in the Spotlight menu gives proper XQuartz information in the upper left corner
>> of the MenuBar.
>> Rich
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>> ________________________________
>> From: R-SIG-Mac <r-sig-mac-bounces using r-project.org> on behalf of Peter West <pbw using pbw.id.au>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:35:59 AM
>> To: r-sig-mac using r-project.org <r-sig-mac using r-project.org>
>> Subject: [External] [R-SIG-Mac] Behaviour or Quartz windows
>> Hi,
>> I�ll just confirm the odd behaviour of the Quartz window in Big Sur 11.2 R 4.0.3 GUI 1.73 on M1 silicon. I have installed the beta3 version of Quartz. In my case I have to CMD <- twice, then go forward to get the next to last plot.
>> Are these Quartz windows constructed using native MacOS graphics or XQuartz?
>> Peter
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