[R-SIG-Mac] [External] Re: [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows

[Richard M. Heiberger]

Your are correct.  I have been using quartz() on the released intel build of R_4.0.3 on the
Mac Silicon.  The misbehavior I reported is about quartz(). R graphics defaults to quartz()
when no device is specified.

I was unaware that XQuartz and quartz are unrelated.   quartz is faster and allows pagination.  XQuartz is very slow, you can watch it draw each panel, and each bar in a bar graph.
XQuartz does not have pagination.

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From: Prof Brian Ripley <ripley using stats.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:26 PM
To: Richard M. Heiberger; Peter West; r-sig-mac using r-project.org
Subject: [External] Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External] Behaviour or Quartz windows

The quartz() device has nothing to so with XQuartz.  Quartz is part of
macOS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_(graphics_layer)

Using XQuartz betas is not supported: it is very unfortunate that they
are persuading users to install a beta version.

You have not followed the posting guide and posted the sessionInfo().
We are left to guess that you are using an Intel build of R under
emulation, but homebrew does have (a rather broken) arm64 build of R
4.0.3: we do not support arm64 builds on R < 4.1.0.  My understanding is
that in the CRAN release of R 4.0.3 only the X11() device and parts of
Tk interact with XQuartz, although other parts may in other builds.

On 09/02/2021 17:33, Richard M. Heiberger wrote:
> Is R on M1 really talking to the REAL XQuartz?  After I opened XQuartz from the spotlignt, it acknowledged the xterm window, but not the R graphics window.  When I closed the XQuartz
> app, the R graphics window was still open and functioning.  dev.cur() says "quartz".
>
> just checked on my older intel mac.  same behavior.  the Xquartz.app menu doesn't list
> the R graphics window, and the R graphics shows "...", not "XQuartz" in the menu bar.
>
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> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] [External]  Behaviour or Quartz windows
>
> When I draw a 9x7 panel lattice it displays 12 panels, then sits there until I resize the window. then the rest appears.  When I display another 9x7, it too sits at 12 panels.
> When I Cmd-left for the previous display, the current one vanishes entirely.
> When I send the command again, after it sits I resize the window.  Now the full second display
> is visible.  When I Cmd-left followed by Cmd-right, the second display is lost.
>
> I am using R version 4.0.3 (2020-10-10) on Silicon Mac Big Sur 11.1 from inside ESS.
>
> XQuartz doesn't report correctly.  On the MenuBar it doesn't say "XQuartz".  Instead it shows a
> small Apple Icon which has no information when clicked.  When I search using the MenuBar Spotlight icon, it tells me Xquartz 2.8.0_beta1 and offers to update to beta3.  Clicking on XQuartz.app in the Spotlight menu gives proper XQuartz information in the upper left corner
> of the MenuBar.
>
> Rich
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>
> Hi,
>
> I�ll just confirm the odd behaviour of the Quartz window in Big Sur 11.2 R 4.0.3 GUI 1.73 on M1 silicon. I have installed the beta3 version of Quartz. In my case I have to CMD <- twice, then go forward to get the next to last plot.
>
> Are these Quartz windows constructed using native MacOS graphics or XQuartz?
>
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