[R-sig-Geo] Shiny app for Spatial Econometric classes

Raphael Saldanha r|@@|d@nh@ @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Thu Jul 8 15:00:48 CEST 2021


Estimado Spencer,

Thanks for your kind words. Actually, that construction is not standard in Portuguese also (although that does not sound pedant or with some bad intention for our ears). I revised the text three times and used an app for grammar correction before sending. Anyway, it was a mistake by all means. 

To learn Spatial Econometrics and other fields require from us additional efforts. There is just a few books or materials in Portuguese. But I try to approach this difficult as an opportunity to learn.

Indeed, one of the reasons for building the app was to facilitate the use of the methods for people that are learning R. *Professor Eduardo and I* teach annually a course on that field and we face this challenge. With the pandemics and Zoom classes, we hope that the app and our scripts will help the students to learn R.


Um forte abraço,

Raphael Saldanha

> Em 8 de jul. de 2021, à(s) 08:45, Spencer Graves <spencer.graves using prodsyse.com> escreveu:
> 
> Estimado Raphael:
> 
> 
> 	  I don't know any Portuguese either, and I'm very grateful that you've made the effort to ask this group in a language not your own.
> 
> 
> 	  In primary school, I learned that constructions like, "Me and Professor ..." too often sounded like, "Mean Professor ...".
> 
> 
> 	  Un fuerte abrazo ("A big hug", as a Uruguayan man whom I had not previously met ended a letter inviting me to talk at a conference).
> 
> 
> 	  Spencer Graves
> 
> 
> On 7/8/21 5:32 AM, Raphael Saldanha wrote:
>> No offense taken. Thanks for the remark and opportunity to learn.
>> Cheers,
>> Raphael
>>> Em 7 de jul. de 2021, à(s) 23:20, Rolf Turner <r.turner using auckland.ac.nz> escreveu:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 18:09:50 -0300
>>>> Raphael Saldanha <rfsaldanha using gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all!
>>>> 
>>>> Me and Professor Eduardo Almeida (UFJF, Brazil) are creating an R
>>>> Shiny app for Spatial Econometric classes.
>>> 
>>> <SNIP>
>>> 
>>> I hope that you won't find this comment offensive, but I could not
>>> resist sending it to you, since I am rather fanatical (pedantic?) about
>>> correct English usage.
>>> 
>>> The expression "Me and Professor Eduardo Almeida" is both (a) bad
>>> grammar and (b) bad form.  (a) Instead of the pronoun "Me" (accusative or
>>> objective case) you should use "I" (nominative or subjective case), since
>>> this expression is the subject of the sentence.  (b) It is "bad form"
>>> (it sounds vaguely self-promoting)  to put a first person pronoun before the
>>> names of others to which it is linked.  You should say "Professor
>>> Eduardo Almeida and I are creating ....".
>>> 
>>> I realise that English is surely a second language for you, and your
>>> English is infinitely better than my non-existent Portuguese.  Your
>>> English is actually quite good, probably better than that of many
>>> native English speakers.  Nevertheless the expression that you use is
>>> not correct and you should strive to avoid such usage.
>>> 
>>> Again let me express the hope that you won't take offence at this
>>> comment.
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> 
>>> Rolf Turner
>>> 
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>>> Department of Statistics
>>> University of Auckland
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