[R-sig-DB] Re: Rdbi package [forwarded msg]

[Kurt Hornik]

>>>>> Kurt Hornik writes:

>>>>> David James writes:

>> Hi,

>> We did start an informal discussion back in April, right after Tim
>> submitted his proposal.  I think that we agreed that writing some
>> kind of draft "request for comments" (RFC) based on his initial Rdbi
>> was a good idea.  At the time, Brian correctly pointed out that we
>> had no framework for discussion, and that there were many other
>> pressing issues that came up at the Vienna conference requiring
>> attention for the members of the r-core group.  Since then, a
>> lot of good things have happened: Martin has setup the R-SIG-DB,
>> and versions 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 have been released (among other nice
>> things).  I'd agree with Kurt that it's probably a good time to
>> get back to Tim's proposal.

>> Is there a consensus that an RFC based on the Rdbi is the next
>> logical step?

> I think so.  Otoh one could argue that Tim's package *is* the RFC.
> Which is what I meant by de facto standard.

I have not seen any followup on this for almost a month.

Hence, I assume that everyone is happy with the new design, and suggest
to move Tim's package from contrib/Devel to contrib.

-k

>> Martin Maechler wrote:
>>> This definitely belongs to the SIG (special interest group) mailing list,
>>> as well {to which probably all in "CC" are subscribed, 
>>> but then I want to be sure ..}
>>> BTW, as a reminder : http://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-db
>>> 
>>> Martin
>>> 
>>> ------- start of forwarded message -------
>>> From: Kurt Hornik <Kurt.Hornik using ci.tuwien.ac.at>
>>> To: R-core using r-project.org, "Timothy H. Keitt" <Timothy.Keitt using stonybrook.edu>,
>>> David James <dj using research.bell-labs.com>,
>>> Saikat DebRoy <saikat using stat.wisc.edu>,
>>> Torsten Hothorn <Torsten.Hothorn using rzmail.uni-erlangen.de>
>>> Subject: Rdbi package
>>> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:54:53 +0200
>>> 
>>> Tim Keitt has created a new package called `Rdbi', which implements
>>> `a generic framework for database access in R', plus another packaeg
>>> called `Rdbi.PgSQL' which implements a PostgreSQL driver using the
>>> generic tools, and is a complete rewrite of the former RPgSQL package.
>>> 
>>> As far as I understand it, Rdbi uses ideas from the RS-DBI draft, but
>>> does not provide an implementation of it.  My understanding/hope based
>>> on discussions in Vienna was that we would have a working group (SIG)
>>> which would improve the standard, and maybe also provide code that works
>>> under all implementations of the S language.  Tim only uses R, and it is
>>> not clear whether his code works under Splus (hence also `Rdbi' versus
>>> `RSdbi').
>>> 
>>> As the new package might very well constitute a de-facto standard, I
>>> have put the packages into the CRAN contrib/Devel section for the time
>>> being, so that in particular the maintainers of the other DBMS access
>>> packages can have a look, and maybe can give some comments.
>>> 
>>> Waiting for feedback and instructions on how to proceed further ...
>>> 
>>> -k
>>> ------- end of forwarded message -------

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