[R-sig-DB] Re: Rdbi package [forwarded msg]

[Kurt Hornik]

>>>>> David James writes:

> Hi,

> We did start an informal discussion back in April, right after Tim
> submitted his proposal.  I think that we agreed that writing some
> kind of draft "request for comments" (RFC) based on his initial Rdbi
> was a good idea.  At the time, Brian correctly pointed out that we
> had no framework for discussion, and that there were many other
> pressing issues that came up at the Vienna conference requiring
> attention for the members of the r-core group.  Since then, a
> lot of good things have happened: Martin has setup the R-SIG-DB,
> and versions 1.3.0 and 1.3.1 have been released (among other nice
> things).  I'd agree with Kurt that it's probably a good time to
> get back to Tim's proposal.

> Is there a consensus that an RFC based on the Rdbi is the next
> logical step?

I think so.  Otoh one could argue that Tim's package *is* the RFC.
Which is what I meant by de facto standard.

-k

> Martin Maechler wrote:
>> This definitely belongs to the SIG (special interest group) mailing list,
>> as well {to which probably all in "CC" are subscribed, 
>> but then I want to be sure ..}
>> BTW, as a reminder : http://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-db
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> ------- start of forwarded message -------
>> From: Kurt Hornik <Kurt.Hornik using ci.tuwien.ac.at>
>> To: R-core using r-project.org, "Timothy H. Keitt" <Timothy.Keitt using stonybrook.edu>,
>> David James <dj using research.bell-labs.com>,
>> Saikat DebRoy <saikat using stat.wisc.edu>,
>> Torsten Hothorn <Torsten.Hothorn using rzmail.uni-erlangen.de>
>> Subject: Rdbi package
>> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 22:54:53 +0200
>> 
>> Tim Keitt has created a new package called `Rdbi', which implements
>> `a generic framework for database access in R', plus another packaeg
>> called `Rdbi.PgSQL' which implements a PostgreSQL driver using the
>> generic tools, and is a complete rewrite of the former RPgSQL package.
>> 
>> As far as I understand it, Rdbi uses ideas from the RS-DBI draft, but
>> does not provide an implementation of it.  My understanding/hope based
>> on discussions in Vienna was that we would have a working group (SIG)
>> which would improve the standard, and maybe also provide code that works
>> under all implementations of the S language.  Tim only uses R, and it is
>> not clear whether his code works under Splus (hence also `Rdbi' versus
>> `RSdbi').
>> 
>> As the new package might very well constitute a de-facto standard, I
>> have put the packages into the CRAN contrib/Devel section for the time
>> being, so that in particular the maintainers of the other DBMS access
>> packages can have a look, and maybe can give some comments.
>> 
>> Waiting for feedback and instructions on how to proceed further ...
>> 
>> -k
>> ------- end of forwarded message -------

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