[R-pkg-devel] Update timing of machines on CRAN?

[Uwe Ligges]

Thanks for your offer to providing us with capable multicore servers and 
support staff for continuing support of recent Fedora systems.

Best,
Uwe Ligges


On 04.12.2023 18:09, andrew--- via R-package-devel wrote:
> I do think that its a reasonable ask that the test machines be running operating systems within their vendor support periods.
> 
> -Andrew Robbins
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> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 11:34 AM
> To: Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalibera using gmail.com>
> Cc: R Package Development <r-package-devel using r-project.org>
> Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] Update timing of machines on CRAN?
> 
> Unfortunately, it is often important for us to pay attention to what
> machines our code is being tested on.
> 
> I think the point is more or less that we often find ourselves trying to
> make super small adjustments for machines and builds that are used by a
> number of users in the single digits. The vast majority of R programmers
> are not on these arcane machines. We should strive to support the vast
> majority of users who use *fairly* standard distributions such as Mac,
> Windows, Ubuntu, Debian, and maybe even Centos. Getting a note for a
> release which has reach EOL can be confusing and tough to know how to
> handle.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 10:17 AM Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalibera using gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> On 12/4/23 15:44, SHIMA Tatsuya wrote:
>>> Thanks for your answer.
>>>
>>> Unlike Windows Server, which has a long support period, Fedora's
>>> support period is usually about one year, so it is surprising that the
>>> old Fedora continues to be used.
>>> And, unlike Windows, Linux uses the distribution standard packages for
>>> builds, which causes problems like the current Fedora machine that
>>> continues to use the old Rust.
>>
>> The configuration currently at different CRAN machines is just a sample
>> of what your users might have, just an example of a setting packages
>> should be able to deal with. Some users might also still have FC36, some
>> might have another Linux distribution (possibly still supported), which
>> has older software than that.
>>
>> I wouldn't recommend spending time tracking which version of which
>> software CRAN systems currently happen to have, but rather making sure
>> packages can deal with different versions (possibly with some in a
>> restricted way, possibly making some hard requirements when necessary).
>>
>> Best
>> Tomas
>>>
>>> Hope to see an update soon. Thanks to the staff for maintaining the
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Tatsuya
>>>
>>> On 2023/12/01 23:43, Uwe Ligges wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01.12.2023 13:28, SHIMA Tatsuya wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I maintain the prqlr package that uses rustc for compiling, so I
>>>>> regularly check the version of Rust on CRAN.
>>>>> And I have noticed that the Rust version of Fedora has been stagnant
>>>>> for the past few months and was wondering why, but upon
>>>>> investigation I realized that this is because Fedora on CRAN is
>>>>> currently Fedora 36 (out of support in May).
>>>>> <https://cran.r-project.org/web/checks/check_flavors.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> It was quite a surprise to me that out of support Fedora is being
>>>>> used, but what is the normal cycle for machines on CRAN to be
>>>>> updated? And do we have any way of knowing that schedule?
>>>>
>>>> It depends on the maintainer who cares about these machine, the
>>>> institution where it is hosted, the availability of technical staff,
>>>> and the technical pressure.
>>>>
>>>> I could not even say when the machines I maintain will be updated.
>>>> On one version of the retired winbuilder severs we kept the same OS
>>>> version for almost 10 years.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Uwe Ligges
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Tatsuya
>>>>>
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