[R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

Joris Meys Jor|@@Mey@ @end|ng |rom ugent@be
Thu May 16 19:41:03 CEST 2019

On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:59 PM Hadley Wickham <h.wickham using gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I am most interested in understanding what level of
> discretion CRAN's "Studentischer administrativer Mitarbeiter" have to
> critique the implementation of R packages

Ing. is the german title for "Engineer". You made her name public in the
repositories of your own organisation. So at least have the decency to
google her before you question her competence in public. Your obvious lack
of understanding about the Austrian education system is no excuse for
questioning her competence.

> I mean no disrespect towards the CRAN maintainers

The respectful thing to do, is to discuss this IN PRIVATE with Dr. Ligges
at the next R foundation in case you really need to know. The unrespectful
thing to do, is to gaslight on a public mailing list to the point you make
others, like Alejandro, question the competence of CRAN maintainers.

> I do recognise that my question "Who are they?" may have been
> perceived as overly intrusive.

The word is "bewildering", as you know their names, and your organisation
shared personally identifying information (i.e. her email address which
includes the institute she WORKS for) on their github repo.

> To clarify: I don't want to know names
> or other personally identifying information, but I would like to know
> in general terms how many there are, and what backgrounds they have.

That's again something you can ask Dr. Ligges IN PRIVATE at the next R
foundation meeting, and not a subject for an open mailing list. And after
this exchange, I would totally understand if he refuses to answer that.

> Similarly, I don't want to know how much they are paid, just whether
> or not they are volunteers or employees.

The budgetary arrangements between a university and their _employee_ are of
no concern to the mailing list. Asking about such arrangements for an
employee that's not yours, is considered highly impolite in Europe.

RStudio has been very vocal on numerous occasions about standards they
hold. I would appreciate if the chief scientist of RStudio abides by those

Thank you.

Joris Meys
Statistical consultant

Department of Data Analysis and Mathematical Modelling
Ghent University
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