[BioC] Single Channel Approach for Agilent Arrays
Gaj Stan (BIGCAT)
Stan.Gaj at BIGCAT.unimaas.nl
Tue Oct 3 10:50:31 CEST 2006
Dear Naomi,
Thanks for your initial response.
My intention was to test out the single channel analysis (SCA) approach
on a very simple and easy dataset.
The reason behind choosing SCA for this dataset was based upon finding a
larger amount of genes that reacted inconsistently (|FC| >1.4 and
opposite direction on both the normal and the dye flip) during my
two-channel analysis compared with the amount of genes that reacted
consistently on both arrays. This could be explained as a possible
dye-effect and I thought that a SCA approach might improve these type of
'weird' results, at least for that specific list of genes. I do
understand that the SCA enables you to do indirect comparisons between
different two-coloured arrays (using contrasts), and that that is not my
main aim here. I'm trying to catch up on the subject, so do correct me
if I'm wrong! (-;
I do have other experimental Agilent data constructed in a more general
loop-design (also dye-flipped) with the same issue at hand. However, if
I use the SCA for that, then I'd still come across my 'pretty basic'
questions mentioned below, i.e. take dye-effect into design-file and
bypassing the 'error' in the intraspotCorrelation function (-:
Best wishes,
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: Naomi Altman [mailto:naomi at stat.psu.edu]
Sent: 03 October 2006 05:13
To: Gaj Stan (BIGCAT); bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [BioC] Single Channel Approach for Agilent Arrays
While I always use the single channel approach for loop designs, I
see no compelling reason to use it for a reference design, which is
what you have here.
Since you appear to have technical replicates for the dye swap, I
would use the 2-channel approach, and save the "blocks" for the
technical replications.
--Naomi
At 09:17 AM 10/2/2006, Gaj Stan (BIGCAT) wrote:
>Dear BioConductor-user,
>
>I've recently tested out Chapter 9 in the Limma user documentation
>concerning applying single channel approach on Agilent arrays. My
>experimental setup consists of two different (pooled) food
>interventions in dye flip using the same control sample (n=4 - For
>each experiment, 1 array + dye-flip). I assume that my ultimate
>single-channel design matrix would look like this
>
> fControl fFood1 fFood2
>(1) 1 0 0
>(2) 0 1 0
>(3) 0 1 0
>(4) 1 0 0
>(5) 1 0 0
>(6) 0 0 1
>(7) 0 0 1
>(8) 1 0 0
>
>Where:
>Food1_vs_Control.Cy3 (1)
>Food1_vs_Control.Cy5 (2)
>Control_vs_Food1.Cy3 (3)
>Control_vs_Food1.Cy5 (4)
>Food2_vs_Control.Cy3 (5)
>Food2_vs_Control.Cy5 (6)
>Control_vs_Food2.Cy3 (7)
>Control_vs_Food2.Cy5 (8)
>
>Question 1: Am I missing any information here? Because if I do this
>as suggested in the manual, I get a matrix with some extra (and
>empty) attributes such as assign (1,1,1), contrasts (NULL) and
>contrasts$f ("contr.treatment"). Are these attributes necessary for
>further steps?
>
>Question 2: In my normal two-channel analysis approach I added an
>extra column in my design file that includes the DyeEffect in the
>statistical analysis (Ebayes) afterwards. Do I need to include them
>here as well?
>
>The next part is calculating the intraspotCorrelation, based upon
>the design file above. When executing, I get the following error:
>"Missing or Infinite Values found in M or A". This error should
>indeed occur, since individual spots of bad quality were flagged as
>NA before normalization, resulting in no M or A value (missing
>value). Is there a way to omit these spots from the
>intraspotCorrelation function (By changing them to 0 it might have
>an effect on the average correlation factor?) or does something else
>need to be done to solve this?
>
>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
>
>Best wishes,
>
> Stan
>
>
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