[R-sig-ME] Additive random effects un lme

[Ben Bolker]

  These are also called "crossed" random effects.  lme can do them in a
limited and complex way -- the syntax is given somewhere in one of the
later chapters of the Pinheiro and Bates 2000 book [see
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/36342072/how-to-get-two-random-effects-crossed-with-one-nested-in-the-other-in-nlme
] but it's much easier with lme4::lmer (y ~ 1 + (1|A) + (1|B)). Do you
have a reason you have to stick with lme?



On 2018-09-19 01:33 PM, Matías Alejandro Castillo Moine wrote:
> Hi everybody!
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> Additive random effects in lme
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> I�m working with lme() R function. I want to fit the following model y=u+A+B+e (where y is the response variable, u the general mean, A and B two categorical variables, and e the error term) but using only u as an fixed effect (so A and B must to be random effects but with additive response). How I can specify this model in lme function?
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> At moment, I was found this manner:
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> lme(y~1, random= ~1|A/B, data)
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> But the problem is that, according to the documentation of nlme package, that sintaxis will to fit an nested model of B nested on A.
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> In my case y are several biometrics variables of a crop, A are environments and B are genotypes. The term e will to include the interaction between A and B. Also, the error term is spatially correlated (I use the correlation argument for clean this effect).
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> Thanks you for your help!
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> Best regards,
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> Mat�as A. Castillo Moine
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