[R-sig-ME] Setting start values for log binomial model in glmmPQL

[Thierry Onkelinx]

Dear Jennifer,

Are you sure that the result of c(coefini,1, 0) is a vector of length 16?
The output of c() could be something else than a vector.

Best regards,

ir. Thierry Onkelinx
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2016-05-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Jennifer Yourkavitch via R-sig-mixed-models <
r-sig-mixed-models op r-project.org>:

> Hello,
> I'm having trouble setting starting values and   I think there is a
> problem with my syntax for the “start” command.
>
>
> First, I’m trying to use the coefficients from a logit model as start
> values for the log binomial model I want to run:
>
> coefini=coef(glmmPQL(anybf~n_dis
> +mage_r+mage_sq+married+parity_r+nhblack+hisp+nhasian+mom_lths+mom_sclg+mom_ba+mwork+medicaid+nodad+mom_foreign,
>      random=~1|grptr0010,family = binomial))
> summary(coefini)
>
> #coefini model looks good and runs
>
> fit2<-glmmPQL(anybf~n_dis
> +mage_r+mage_sq+married+parity_r+nhblack+hisp+nhasian+mom_lths+mom_sclg+mom_ba+mwork+medicaid+nodad+mom_foreign,
>      random=~1|grptr0010,family = binomial(log),start=c(coefini,1, 0))
>
> summary(fit2)
>
> I get this error:
> Error in glm.fit(x = c(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,  :
>   length of 'start' should equal 16 and correspond to initial coefs for
> c("(Intercept)", "n_dis", "mage_r", "mage_sq", "married", "parity_r", ,
> "nhblack", "hisp", "nhasian", "mom_lths", "mom_sclg", "mom_ba", , "mwork",
> "medicaid", "nodad", "mom_foreign")
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> So then I tried typing in the coefficients from the logit model directly:
>
> fit2<-glmmPQL(anybf~n_dis
> +mage_r+mage_sq+married+parity_r+nhblack+hisp+nhasian+mom_lths+mom_sclg+mom_ba+mwork+medicaid+nodad+mom_foreign,
>               random=~1|grptr0010,family = binomial(log),start=c(0.0675,
> -0.127, 0.008, -0.0002, 0.369, -0.111, -0.0795, 0.363, 0.1387, -0.121,
> 0.415, 0.861, 0.023, -0.033, -0.307, 0.915))
> summary(fit2)
>
> And I get this error:
> Error: cannot find valid starting values: please specify some
>
>
> Can you see the problem?
>
> Thanks!
> Jennifer
>
>
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