[R-sig-ME] [Lme4-authors] Fixing the level 1 residual variance
Ben Bolker
bbolker at gmail.com
Fri May 2 23:23:06 CEST 2014
On 14-05-02 03:43 PM, Douglas Bates wrote:
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Charlotte Arndt <arndtch at uni-landau.de
> <mailto:arndtch at uni-landau.de>> wrote:
>
> Dear Sir / Madam,
> I am analyzing some data by means of multivariate multilevel models
> and want to fix the residual variance on level 1 to zero. In HLM,
> you can do this by fixing the level 1 residual variance (sigma
> square) to a very small value, e.g. 0.00001. Is it possible to
> constrain the level 1 residual variance with lme4? It would be
> great, if I could use lme4 for my analyses. Thanking you in advance.
>
>
> I forget how the "levels" are numbered in the multilevel modeling
> literature but as you say "residual variance" I imagine you are
> referring to the variance of the conditional distribution of the
> response given the random effects. The way the model is defined and fit
> in the lme4 package the covariance matrix of the random effects is
> defined relative to this variance. In other words it would not be
> possible to fit the model in the way you describe.
>
> Actually I can't imagine how such a model could make sense. Where does
> the variability in the conditional distribution get absorbed?
Actually, this can be done with blme. See
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.r.lme4.devel/11500/
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.r.lme4.devel/11093/
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