[R-sig-ME] Understanding/plotting fixed effects estimates &standard errors

Paul Johnson pauljohn32 at gmail.com
Fri Jun 22 17:21:31 CEST 2012


I woke up this morning and realized I had given you bad advice.
changing the success/fail has no effect on the predictions, as you
found.

you need to put in alternate values of the estimated intercept.
Recall a logistic curve is S shaped. I suspect the intercept you are
using is placing you on the far left or right, where the effect of
change is not substantial. If you adjust the intercept estimate from
low to high, then you will see differences.

Think of this like a linear model, where the confidence interval is an
hour-glass shaped thing.  If you move from left to right, it shrinks
and grows.  Look on slide  37 in this lecture:
http://pj.freefaculty.org/guides/stat/Regression/ElementaryOLS/Regression-2-lecture.pdf
if you don't remember the hourglass

I believe similar is happening in your situation.  The difference is
that the left-and-right movement of the predicted value is driven by
your intercept.  The random effect affects the intercept, so in some
conditions the effect is larger than others, and the standard error
should also change.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:00 AM, David Duffy <David.Duffy at qimr.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Oops, I didn't even see that you presented the no-intercept results in your
> first email.  I would trust the LRTS results, I think. I would really need
> to see the data to get a feel for what is happening (like what is the number
> of trials etc).  Do you even need variable?
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