[R-sig-ME] GLMM parameter interpretation

Adam Smith raptorbio at hotmail.com
Fri Jan 20 16:18:31 CET 2012


Thanks, although I should correct an omission in my description.  Factor A does not vary within level 1 OR level 2 subjects.  Does this change anything for that covariate?

Adam

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> From: Thierry.ONKELINX at inbo.be
> To: raptorbio at hotmail.com; r-sig-mixed-models at r-project.org
> Subject: RE: [R-sig-ME] GLMM parameter interpretation
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:31:03 +0000
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> A quick answer: No
>
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> Van: r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-sig-mixed-models-bounces at r-project.org] Namens Adam Smith
> Verzonden: vrijdag 20 januari 2012 5:22
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> Onderwerp: [R-sig-ME] GLMM parameter interpretation
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>
> All,
>
> A quick question, and an easy one I expect.
>
> Suppose the following generic overdispersed log-linear model:
>
> Count ~ A + B + C + (1|level1) + (1|level2) + (1|obs)
>
> A, B, and C are all factors.
> A does not vary within level1 subjects.
> B does not vary within level2 subjects.
> C varies within level 1 and level 2 subjects.
>
> Does the conditional nature of the GLMM and the lack of variation in A (within level 1 subjects) and B (within level 2 subjects) result in nonsensical or uninterpretable coefficients for these two covariates?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam Smith
> Dept. Natural Resources Science
> 105 Coastal Institute in Kingston
> University of Rhode Island
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