[R-sig-ME] extracting residuals in lmer glmm

[Douglas Bates]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Hank Stevens <HStevens at muohio.edu> wrote:
> In answer (sort of) to my own question, resid() now works on both mer and
> summary.mer objects.
> All of these results (resid() working and not working) have occurred while
> using yesterday's CRAN version of lme4 {R package version 0.999375-24}.

> I have no idea what would have caused the problem yesterday and this
> morning, but not now. Oh well.

I was just going to write that you must be using a very old version of
the lme4 package.  The wrkres slot was removed in the transition from
the 0.99875 to 0.999375 series.

What is returned by the resid generic applied to a generalized linear
mixed model is

(m1 at y - m1 at mu)/sqrt(m1 at var)

That is one of the many possible definitions of "residuals" for a
generalized linear model.  There is a name for those residuals but I
can't remember right now what they are callled - perhaps after I have
recovered from the trans-Atlantic flight returning from the useR!2008
conference, which was wonderful.  Thanks again to the organizers and
to the more than 400 attendees who made it such a success.  We hope to
see many of you again in Rennes, France for useR!2009 next July.


>
> Hank
>
>
> y <- rpois(100, lambda=10)
> xz <- expand.grid(x=gl(2,5), z=gl(10,1))
> m1 <- lmer(y ~ x + (1|z), xz, family="poisson")
> m1s <- summary(m1)
> resid(m1)
>  [1] -0.04336 -0.98556  0.89885  0.27071 -0.67149 -0.14260
> ...
> resid(m1s)
>  [1] -0.04336 -0.98556  0.89885  0.27071 -0.67149 -0.14260
> ...
>
> On Aug 14, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Martin Henry H. Stevens wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>> I seem unable to figure out how to extract residuals from a Poisson
>> lmer model.
>>
>> And, I am not sure what to do with the working residuals.
>>
>> Any references or ideas would be appreciated.
>>
>> # Example:
>> y <- rpois(100, lambda=10)
>> xz <- expand.grid(x=gl(2,5), z=gl(10,1))
>> m1 <- lmer(y ~ x + (1|z), xz, family="poisson")
>>
>> resid(m1)
>> Error: 'resid' is not implemented yet
>>
>>  residuals(m1)
>> Error: 'residuals' is not implemented yet
>>
>>  summary(m1 @ wrkres)
>> Min. 1st Qu.  Median    Mean 3rd Qu.    Max.
>> 1.38    1.98    2.20    2.22    2.50    3.13
>>
>>
>> Hank Stevens
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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