[R-meta] Spatial-temporal meta-analysis

Michael Dewey lists at dewey.myzen.co.uk
Mon Nov 13 10:46:07 CET 2017


Dear Rafael

It might help to have just a sentence or two about the scientific 
question here as I (and perhaps others) am not quite clear what your 
phrase "variation in average effect size is greater than zero" means.

Michael

On 12/11/2017 17:08, Rafael Rios wrote:
> Dear Wolfgang,
> 
> Thank you for the attention. My data set follows on attached (CSV file). 
> When we found more than one season (three, for instance), we wrote "3" 
> in the "season" column. Follow, we identified seasons as "1", "2" and 
> "3" in the "class_season" column corresponding to each effect size. When 
> there was only one season, we wrote "1" in the season column and "0" in 
> the class_season column. We adopted the same procedure for the "pop" and 
> "pop_class" columns corresponding to data about one or more populations. 
> We also used as random variables "study" and "species". How may I do a 
> random effects model to evaluate if variation in average effect size is 
> greater than zero?
> 
> Abraço,
> 
> Rafael R. Moura.
> /scientia amabilis/
> 
> Doutorando da Pós-graduação em Ecologia e Conservação de Recursos Naturais
> Universidade Federal de Uberlândia, Uberlândia, MG, Brasil
> 
> ORCID: http://orcid.org/0000-0002-7911-4734
> Currículo Lattes: 
> http://buscatextual.cnpq.br/buscatextual/visualizacv.do?id=K4244908A8
> Research Gate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rafael_Rios_Moura2
> 
> 
> <http://buscatextual.cnpq.br/buscatextual/visualizacv.do?id=K4244908A8>
> 
> 2017-11-11 11:15 GMT-02:00 Viechtbauer Wolfgang (SP) 
> <wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl 
> <mailto:wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl>>:
> 
>     Dear Rafael,
> 
>     What exactly do you mean by 'temporal categories'? It might also
>     help to show (part of) your data to clarify what your data really
>     look like.
> 
>     Best,
>     Wolfgang
> 
>     >-----Original Message-----
>     >From: Rafael Rios [mailto:biorafaelrm at gmail.com <mailto:biorafaelrm at gmail.com>]
>      >Sent: Friday, 10 November, 2017 13:37
>      >To: Viechtbauer Wolfgang (SP)
>      >Cc: r-sig-meta-analysis at r-project.org
>     <mailto:r-sig-meta-analysis at r-project.org>; Michael Dewey
>      >Subject: RE: Spatial-temporal meta-analysis
>      >
>      >Dear Wolfgang,
>      >
>      >Thank you for the reply. I am sorry to complicate something that
>     should
>      >be simple. I want to evaluate if the effect size vary throughout the
>      >time, for example. Therefore, I thought to use a measure that estimate
>      >such temporal variation in effect size, like CV. I did not consider to
>      >use temporal categories as a moderator because I have different
>      >categories for each species. For instance, I have three effect
>     sizes for
>      >three breeding seasons in a species, while I have twelve measures for
>      >another species. Even in this situation, may I use temporal
>     categories in
>      >the function rma.mv <http://rma.mv>? If I can do this, it will be
>     amazing.
>      >
>      >Best wishes,
>      >
>      >Rafael.
>      >
>      >Em 10 de nov de 2017 8:45 AM, "Viechtbauer Wolfgang (SP)"
>      ><wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl
>     <mailto:wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl>> escreveu:
>      >Dear Rafael,
>      >
>      >It is still not really clear to me what want to do. You say that
>     you want
>      >to "use coefficient of variance (CV) and number of replicates in
>     rma.mv <http://rma.mv>
>      >function of metafor package to built a random model controlling
>      >phylogenetic signal". I have no idea what that means, so I cannot
>     say if
>      >this approach is appropriate or not.
>      >
>      >When you say that you want to examine if effect sizes vary in
>     space and
>      >time, then why not include some measure of time and some measure of
>      >location in the model as predictors/moderators?
>      >
>      >Best,
>      >Wolfgang
>      >
>      >>-----Original Message-----
>      >>From: Rafael Rios [mailto:biorafaelrm at gmail.com
>     <mailto:biorafaelrm at gmail.com>]
>      >>Sent: Thursday, 09 November, 2017 14:51
>      >>To: Viechtbauer Wolfgang (SP); r-sig-meta-analysis at r-project.org
>     <mailto:r-sig-meta-analysis at r-project.org>;
>      >Michael
>      >>Dewey
>      >>Subject: Spatial-temporal meta-analysis
>      >>
>      >>Dear Wolfgang and All,
>      >>
>      >>I am still working on an approach to evaluate variations in
>     effect sizes
>      >>in space and time. I have several replicates of effect sizes
>     (Fisher's
>      >Z)
>      >>in different populations and/or breeding seasons for each species. My
>      >>hypothesis is that effect size varies in space and time. Then, I
>     want to
>      >>use a random model to evaluate if a estimative of variation in effect
>      >>size is high when compared to a null model. I am wondering if I
>     can use
>      >>coefficient of variance (CV) and number of replicates in rma.mv
>     <http://rma.mv> function
>      >>of metafor package to built a random model controlling phylogenetic
>      >>signal. Do you agree with my approach or suggest to use another
>     measure
>      >>of variation in replicates of effect size or a different estimate of
>      >>weight?
>      >>
>      >>Best wishes,
>      >>
>      >>Rafael R. Moura.
>      >>scientia amabilis
>      >>
>      >>Doutorando da Pós-graduação em Ecologia e Conservação de Recursos
>      >>Naturais
>      >>Universidade Federal de Uberlândia, Uberlândia, MG, Brasil
>      >>
>      >>ORCID: http://orcid.org/0000-0002-7911-4734
>     <http://orcid.org/0000-0002-7911-4734>
>      >>Currículo
>      >>Lattes:
>     http://buscatextual.cnpq.br/buscatextual/visualizacv.do?id=K4244
>     <http://buscatextual.cnpq.br/buscatextual/visualizacv.do?id=K4244>
>      >9
>      >>08A8
>      >>Research Gate:
>     https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rafael_Rios_Moura2
>     <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rafael_Rios_Moura2>
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