[R-SIG-Mac] noob asked for help

Mike Feher m|eher1971 @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Mon Sep 7 23:58:20 CEST 2020

Thank you, Brodie.  I can do without the 1992 level of Useness sarcasm when
reaching out for answers.  I consulted the documentation, and they give a
very specific example.  I consulted the tutorial, and it gives a very
specific example.  Neither were suited to identifying answers to my own
particular questions.  At least going forward, I will know who to look to
for useful information and helpful guidance, and likely will suggest
documentation changes as I go.  And you are correct, I was not at all
pleased to see this harsh level of reaction; some people perhaps feel the
only power they have in their lives is to assert some supposed level of
superiority rather than seeking to understand and be helpful.


On September 7, 2020 at 8:18:30 AM, brodie gaslam via R-SIG-Mac (
r-sig-mac using r-project.org) wrote:

My view on these things is to either not respond, or try to increase
the level of understanding so that future questions may be better.  I
don't think you meant it that way, but I can't imagine anyone seeing
this as the aftermath of asking a question is going to feel
particularly good about themselves.

We can always gently direct people back to SO if we do not wish to
answer newbie questions.

>On Monday, September 7, 2020, 6:57:55 AM EDT, Carl Witthoft <
carl using witthoft.com> wrote:
>For those who haven't checked in a while, the sad state of affairs over
>at StackOverflow.com is that 99% of the R-tagged questions there are at
>this level of [non]understanding.  We should consider ourselves very
>lucky that r-sig-mac remains almost entirely devoid of such stuff.
>>> On Sep 6, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Mike Feher <mfeher1971 using gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>> As I’m getting familiar with R, I have some basic questions that I
>>> of to shoot to useRs:
>Carl Witthoft
>carl using witthoft.com
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