[R-SIG-Mac] Graphic problem Rcmdr

Peter Dalgaard pd@|gd @end|ng |rom gm@||@com
Thu Apr 30 16:35:49 CEST 2020


There is a generic problem with Tcl/Tk combined with other GUIs, though. Essentially, you need to multiplex two event loops, and there is some risk of race conditions. Whether such bugs actually bite can vary between platforms.

-pd

> On 30 Apr 2020, at 02:02 , Fox, John <jfox using mcmaster.ca> wrote:
> 
> Dear JB,
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 1:44 PM, jean benoit TANIS <jb.tanis using gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This actually works well on the terminal session !! Very strange that the App GUI does not work well. I do not know if it is a general Mac problem or due to my computer settings…. 
> 
> I don't think that it could be a general Mac problem, because R.app works with the Rcmdr for me and others. At least you now have a couple of solutions.
> 
> Best,
> John
> 
>> 
>> JB
>> 
>>> On 29 Apr 2020, at 18:18, Fox, John <jfox using mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear JB,
>>> 
>>> If you use the Rcmdr with RStudio, by default it will direct output to the RStudio console. You can change that, if you wish -- look at the Rcmdr options in ?Commander.
>>> 
>>> Also, have you tried running R and the Rcmdr in a Terminal window, as I suggested? If the problem is with R.app, then that might work too.
>>> 
>>> Peter: Thanks for chiming in.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> John
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: jean benoit TANIS <jb.tanis using gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:04 PM
>>>> To: peter dalgaard <pdalgd using gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Fox, John <jfox using mcmaster.ca>; R-Sig-Mac <r-sig-mac using r-project.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] Graphic problem Rcmdr
>>>> 
>>>> I have just tried with R studio and it works … I do not know why it does
>>>> not work with Rapp but at least I can use it now.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you very much for your precious help !!
>>>> 
>>>> JB
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Apr 2020, at 16:14, peter dalgaard <pdalgd using gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also not seen by me on Mojave (admittedly 4.0.0 beta, which I can't be
>>>> bothered to upgrade at this point). Works both from R.app and Terminal,
>>>> and even from RStudio.
>>>>> 
>>>>> One thought is a missing font, but same font is used elsewhere is it
>>>> not?
>>>>> 
>>>>> You could try playing with generic Tcl/Tk via the tcltk package and
>>>>> see if you can reproduce the problem in a simpler setting (perhaps try
>>>>> the package demos?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> -pd
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2020, at 15:07 , Fox, John <jfox using mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear JB,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We corresponded privately about this problem, and I suggested that you
>>>> post a message to the R-SIG-Mac list when I was unable to help you solve
>>>> it. I don't experience the problem on a Mac similar to yours, but running
>>>> macOS Catalina, and no one else to my knowledge has reported a similar
>>>> problem (with blank menus).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do have one additional suggestion: I assume that you're running the
>>>> Rcmdr under the standard R.app GUI. Try running R in a Terminal session.
>>>> That is open the Mac Terminal, type R  at the % command prompt and then
>>>> library(Rcmdr) at the R > prompt.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps others will think of additional suggestions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:18 AM, jean benoit TANIS <jb.tanis using gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I recently downloaded 4.0.0 and the Rcmdr package with dependencies (I
>>>> used to work on R2.6 on Windows).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When I load the Rcmdr package, this is what I obtain - see picture
>>>>>>> (the drop down menu does not display). <Snip20200428_1.png>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I manage to have access to the drop-down menu only once despite 20 or
>>>> so attempts of closing and reopening R.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have tried to:
>>>>>>> - turn-off nap-app => same issue
>>>>>>> - uninstall R and rebook and start again => same issue
>>>>>>> - uninstall XQuartz and reboot and start again => same issue
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For more information about my system, please find the pictures below
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <7D8214F7-97BD-45F0-A21F-9A5333AF2C94.tiff>
>>>>>>> <28E41AFC-0091-4F73-8A48-D9B8D33D341D.tiff>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did you encounter this problem before ? Is there any way you could
>>>> help me solving it ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your help,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>> 
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