[R-SIG-Mac] R commander fonts on R 3.4.0

peter dalgaard pdalgd at gmail.com
Tue May 16 21:03:51 CEST 2017 

> On 16 May 2017, at 19:30 , Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org> wrote:
> 
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>> On May 16, 2017, at 12:20 PM, peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mystery solved after looking into the actual .pkg files. They simply contain a full Tcl/Tk which installs into /usr/local, which obviously affects anything that links it dynamically. I somehow thought that they would install somewhere separate. (Stop grinning, Simon!)
>> 
> 
> I'm not sure I understand the "they" - is it us?

The files/libs...

> The difference in R 3.4.0 is that we are using everything from the system (and XQuartz) whereas before we were building dependencies ourselves before.
> 

Aha.

> 
>> Anyways, the way forward must be to get Tcl/Tk compiled exactly as they were in 3.3.x.
>> 
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> R before 3.4.0 we used Tcl/Tk 8.6.0 for OS X Mavericks from 2013, for R 3.4.0 we are using Tcl/Tk 8.6.6 for El Capitan.

From where do we get those? ActiveState?

> FWIW the config flags were
> --disable-corefoundation --disable-framework --disable-aqua --enable-64bit --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib --with-x --x-includes=/opt/X11/include --x-libraries=/opt/X11/lib CC=clang CXX=clang++

I don't think the config flags for R matter in this regard. The behaviour is completely paralleled by wish8.6: 

Peter-Dalgaards-MacBook-Air:~ pd$ /usr/local/bin/wish8.6 
% tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem
invalid command name "tk::pkgconfig"


> I have no idea what you are talking about here so if anyone has suggestions to test, let me know.
> 
> Cheers,
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
>> -pd
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>>> On 16 May 2017, at 15:18 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Double-checked: Indeed, installing 3.3-branch-mavericks.pkg enables xft on my local builds of R-patched and R-devel. Hmmmm......
>>> 
>>> -pd 
>>> 
>>>> On 16 May 2017, at 14:55 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Curiouser and curiouser, now my local build of R-devel stopped using xft _without any recompile_ I swear that it worked before I installed R-3.4.0.pkg....
>>>> 
>>>> I have both /opt/local/ and /usr/local variants of Tcl/Tk 8.6 and only the former has wish8.6 understanding the tk::pkgconfig stuff, so there is plenty of room for confusion. The latter seems to be from Simon's site; the other one could be a MacPorts relic...
>>>> 
>>>> -pd
>>>> 
>>>>> On 16 May 2017, at 13:28 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's a build issue relating to Tcl/Tk, not specifically Rcmdr (Rcmdr does something slightly weird[*] with the fonts too, but this seems to be orthogonal to the ugly-font issue).
>>>>> 
>>>>> To see the issue quickly, try 
>>>>> 
>>>>> library(tcltk)
>>>>> .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem")
>>>>> 
>>>>> With CRAN 3.3.3, I get 
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Tcl> xft 
>>>>> 
>>>>> and likewise with a local nightly build of R-devel, but CRAN 3.4.0 says
>>>>> 
>>>>>> .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem")
>>>>> Error in .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem") : 
>>>>> could not find function ".Tcl"
>>>>> 
>>>>> as does a local build of R-patched (???!!!). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is pretty weird. I'll see if I can dig up some more about where the difference is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -pd
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> [*] Try library(tcltk); demo(tkfaq)  then library(Rcmdr) and watch the font change in the tkfaq window.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15 May 2017, at 23:17 , Fox, John <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Jose,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's a bit difficult to respond to your latest messages because you sent so many of them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not entirely sure what's producing your font problems -- perhaps Simon will have some additional ideas -- but you should be aware that you can't load the Rcmdr package -- or, more generally, the tcltk package -- without XQuartz (or another X11 system). Normally, XQuartz should start automatically when the Rcmdr (or tcltk) package is loaded. That is, you should not have to start it separately.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It may help to know that the Rcmdr package selects its default dialog font by querying the default Tk font, via the command
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 	tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkDefaultFont -family"))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and sets the font for commands and output by querying the default Tk fixed-width font:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 	tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkFixedFont -family"))
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On my Macs, these are respectively the helvetica and courier fonts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In any event, I'm glad that you seem to have solved your problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Jose G Conde Santiago [mailto:jose.conde1 at upr.edu]
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 3:18 PM
>>>>>>> To: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>; Fox, John
>>>>>>> <jfox at mcmaster.ca>; r-sig-mac at r-project.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R commander fonts on R 3.4.0
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When I run R without XQuartz, the text from the help screen renders
>>>>>>> well. I think the problem seems to be related to XQuartz.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> José
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>>> Professor, School of Medicine
>>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>>> UPR Medical Sciences Campus
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tel  (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Email: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> … and the same I get the same issue with R “help” screens in my iMac.
>>>>>>> I cannot reproduce this in the macBook.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> José
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <R help .png>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>>>> Catedrático, Escuela de Medicina
>>>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>>>> Recinto de Ciencias Médicas, UPR
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tel  (787) 763-9401  Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Correo electrónico: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is the actual resolutions.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> José
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <Fonts 20 points.png>
>>>>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Medicine
>>>>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>>>>> UPR Medical Sciences Campus
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tel  (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Email: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> <Fonts 20 points.png>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>>>>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>>>>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>>>>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>>>>> Office: A 4.23
>>>>> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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>>>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>>>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>>>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>>>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>>>> Office: A 4.23
>>>> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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>>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>>> Office: A 4.23
>>> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>> Office: A 4.23
>> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
Phone: (+45)38153501
Office: A 4.23
Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com

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