[R-SIG-Mac] R commander fonts on R 3.4.0

peter dalgaard pdalgd at gmail.com
Tue May 16 18:20:09 CEST 2017 

Mystery solved after looking into the actual .pkg files. They simply contain a full Tcl/Tk which installs into /usr/local, which obviously affects anything that links it dynamically. I somehow thought that they would install somewhere separate. (Stop grinning, Simon!)

Anyways, the way forward must be to get Tcl/Tk compiled exactly as they were in 3.3.x.

-pd




> On 16 May 2017, at 15:18 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Double-checked: Indeed, installing 3.3-branch-mavericks.pkg enables xft on my local builds of R-patched and R-devel. Hmmmm......
> 
> -pd 
> 
>> On 16 May 2017, at 14:55 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Curiouser and curiouser, now my local build of R-devel stopped using xft _without any recompile_ I swear that it worked before I installed R-3.4.0.pkg....
>> 
>> I have both /opt/local/ and /usr/local variants of Tcl/Tk 8.6 and only the former has wish8.6 understanding the tk::pkgconfig stuff, so there is plenty of room for confusion. The latter seems to be from Simon's site; the other one could be a MacPorts relic...
>> 
>> -pd
>> 
>>> On 16 May 2017, at 13:28 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's a build issue relating to Tcl/Tk, not specifically Rcmdr (Rcmdr does something slightly weird[*] with the fonts too, but this seems to be orthogonal to the ugly-font issue).
>>> 
>>> To see the issue quickly, try 
>>> 
>>> library(tcltk)
>>> .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem")
>>> 
>>> With CRAN 3.3.3, I get 
>>> 
>>> <Tcl> xft 
>>> 
>>> and likewise with a local nightly build of R-devel, but CRAN 3.4.0 says
>>> 
>>>> .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem")
>>> Error in .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem") : 
>>> could not find function ".Tcl"
>>> 
>>> as does a local build of R-patched (???!!!). 
>>> 
>>> This is pretty weird. I'll see if I can dig up some more about where the difference is.
>>> 
>>> -pd
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [*] Try library(tcltk); demo(tkfaq)  then library(Rcmdr) and watch the font change in the tkfaq window.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 15 May 2017, at 23:17 , Fox, John <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Jose,
>>>> 
>>>> It's a bit difficult to respond to your latest messages because you sent so many of them.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not entirely sure what's producing your font problems -- perhaps Simon will have some additional ideas -- but you should be aware that you can't load the Rcmdr package -- or, more generally, the tcltk package -- without XQuartz (or another X11 system). Normally, XQuartz should start automatically when the Rcmdr (or tcltk) package is loaded. That is, you should not have to start it separately.
>>>> 
>>>> It may help to know that the Rcmdr package selects its default dialog font by querying the default Tk font, via the command
>>>> 
>>>> 	tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkDefaultFont -family"))
>>>> 
>>>> and sets the font for commands and output by querying the default Tk fixed-width font:
>>>> 
>>>> 	tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkFixedFont -family"))
>>>> 
>>>> On my Macs, these are respectively the helvetica and courier fonts.
>>>> 
>>>> In any event, I'm glad that you seem to have solved your problem.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jose G Conde Santiago [mailto:jose.conde1 at upr.edu]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 3:18 PM
>>>>> To: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>; Fox, John
>>>>> <jfox at mcmaster.ca>; r-sig-mac at r-project.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R commander fonts on R 3.4.0
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I run R without XQuartz, the text from the help screen renders
>>>>> well. I think the problem seems to be related to XQuartz.
>>>>> 
>>>>> José
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>> Professor, School of Medicine
>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>> UPR Medical Sciences Campus
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tel  (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>> 
>>>>> Email: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>> 
>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> … and the same I get the same issue with R “help” screens in my iMac.
>>>>> I cannot reproduce this in the macBook.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> José
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <R help .png>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>> Catedrático, Escuela de Medicina
>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>> Recinto de Ciencias Médicas, UPR
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tel  (787) 763-9401  Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Correo electrónico: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is the actual resolutions.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> José
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <Fonts 20 points.png>
>>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>>> Professor, School of Medicine
>>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>>> UPR Medical Sciences Campus
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tel  (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Email: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <Fonts 20 points.png>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>> Office: A 4.23
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> Office: A 4.23
> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk  Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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