[R-SIG-Mac] R commander fonts on R 3.4.0
Jose G Conde Santiago
jose.conde1 at upr.edu
Fri Jul 7 17:55:14 CEST 2017
Great.
Thank you Peter, Simon, David, John, and all.
José
José G. Conde, MD, MPH
Professor, School of Medicine
Director, CentIT2
UPR Medical Sciences Campus
Tel (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
Email: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 7:39 AM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org> wrote:
>
> FWIW the issue should be resolved in R 3.4.1 - the default in Tcl/Tk is to build without Xft so for R 3.4.1 we have now re-build Tcl/Tk 8.6.6 binary with explicitly enabled Xft.
>
> Cheers,
> Simon
>
>
>> On May 16, 2017, at 7:30 PM, Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On May 16, 2017, at 12:20 PM, peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mystery solved after looking into the actual .pkg files. They simply contain a full Tcl/Tk which installs into /usr/local, which obviously affects anything that links it dynamically. I somehow thought that they would install somewhere separate. (Stop grinning, Simon!)
>>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand the "they" - is it us? The difference in R 3.4.0 is that we are using everything from the system (and XQuartz) whereas before we were building dependencies ourselves before.
>>
>>
>>> Anyways, the way forward must be to get Tcl/Tk compiled exactly as they were in 3.3.x.
>>>
>>
>> R before 3.4.0 we used Tcl/Tk 8.6.0 for OS X Mavericks from 2013, for R 3.4.0 we are using Tcl/Tk 8.6.6 for El Capitan.
>>
>> FWIW the config flags were
>> --disable-corefoundation --disable-framework --disable-aqua --enable-64bit --with-tcl=/usr/local/lib --with-x --x-includes=/opt/X11/include --x-libraries=/opt/X11/lib CC=clang CXX=clang++
>>
>> I have no idea what you are talking about here so if anyone has suggestions to test, let me know.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>> -pd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 16 May 2017, at 15:18 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Double-checked: Indeed, installing 3.3-branch-mavericks.pkg enables xft on my local builds of R-patched and R-devel. Hmmmm......
>>>>
>>>> -pd
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 May 2017, at 14:55 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Curiouser and curiouser, now my local build of R-devel stopped using xft _without any recompile_ I swear that it worked before I installed R-3.4.0.pkg....
>>>>>
>>>>> I have both /opt/local/ and /usr/local variants of Tcl/Tk 8.6 and only the former has wish8.6 understanding the tk::pkgconfig stuff, so there is plenty of room for confusion. The latter seems to be from Simon's site; the other one could be a MacPorts relic...
>>>>>
>>>>> -pd
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 May 2017, at 13:28 , peter dalgaard <pdalgd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a build issue relating to Tcl/Tk, not specifically Rcmdr (Rcmdr does something slightly weird[*] with the fonts too, but this seems to be orthogonal to the ugly-font issue).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To see the issue quickly, try
>>>>>>
>>>>>> library(tcltk)
>>>>>> .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem")
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With CRAN 3.3.3, I get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <Tcl> xft
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and likewise with a local nightly build of R-devel, but CRAN 3.4.0 says
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem")
>>>>>> Error in .Tcl("::tk::pkgconfig get fontsystem") :
>>>>>> could not find function ".Tcl"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as does a local build of R-patched (???!!!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is pretty weird. I'll see if I can dig up some more about where the difference is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -pd
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [*] Try library(tcltk); demo(tkfaq) then library(Rcmdr) and watch the font change in the tkfaq window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 May 2017, at 23:17 , Fox, John <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Jose,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a bit difficult to respond to your latest messages because you sent so many of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not entirely sure what's producing your font problems -- perhaps Simon will have some additional ideas -- but you should be aware that you can't load the Rcmdr package -- or, more generally, the tcltk package -- without XQuartz (or another X11 system). Normally, XQuartz should start automatically when the Rcmdr (or tcltk) package is loaded. That is, you should not have to start it separately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It may help to know that the Rcmdr package selects its default dialog font by querying the default Tk font, via the command
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkDefaultFont -family"))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and sets the font for commands and output by querying the default Tk fixed-width font:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> tclvalue(.Tcl("font actual TkFixedFont -family"))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On my Macs, these are respectively the helvetica and courier fonts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In any event, I'm glad that you seem to have solved your problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Jose G Conde Santiago [mailto:jose.conde1 at upr.edu]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 3:18 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>; Fox, John
>>>>>>>> <jfox at mcmaster.ca>; r-sig-mac at r-project.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R commander fonts on R 3.4.0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I run R without XQuartz, the text from the help screen renders
>>>>>>>> well. I think the problem seems to be related to XQuartz.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> José
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Medicine
>>>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>>>> UPR Medical Sciences Campus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tel (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Email: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> … and the same I get the same issue with R “help” screens in my iMac.
>>>>>>>> I cannot reproduce this in the macBook.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> José
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <R help .png>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>>>>> Catedrático, Escuela de Medicina
>>>>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>>>>> Recinto de Ciencias Médicas, UPR
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tel (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Correo electrónico: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is the actual resolutions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> José
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <Fonts 20 points.png>
>>>>>>>>>> José G. Conde, MD, MPH
>>>>>>>>>> Professor, School of Medicine
>>>>>>>>>> Director, CentIT2
>>>>>>>>>> UPR Medical Sciences Campus
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tel (787) 763-9401 Fax (787) 758-5206
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Email: jose.conde1 at upr.edu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> URL: http://rcmi.rcm.upr.edu
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 15, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Jose G Conde Santiago
>>>>>>>> <jose.conde1 at upr.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <Fonts 20 points.png>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>>>>>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>>>>>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>>>>>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>>>>>> Office: A 4.23
>>>>>> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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>>>>> --
>>>>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>>>>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>>>>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>>>>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>>>>> Office: A 4.23
>>>>> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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>>>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>>>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>>>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>>>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>>>> Office: A 4.23
>>>> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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>>> Peter Dalgaard, Professor,
>>> Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School
>>> Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark
>>> Phone: (+45)38153501
>>> Office: A 4.23
>>> Email: pd.mes at cbs.dk Priv: PDalgd at gmail.com
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