[R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me

Loren Engrav engrav at u.washington.edu
Wed Dec 12 01:01:31 CET 2007 

Thank you
That sounds clever, probably too clever for me
I think I will just drag and drop


> From: Steven McKinney <smckinney at bccrc.ca>
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:04:19 -0800
> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>, <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
> Conversation: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
> Subject: RE: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
> 
> Hi Loren,
> 
> The great thing about R is its depth
> of functionality.  You could write
> a .Last() function in your .Rprofile
> that makes a note of your session
> working directory (in a clear text
> file, or by modifying .Rprofile itself, ...)
> so that your .First() function in .Rprofile
> can find out where you were last and
> start you up there.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve McKinney
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-sig-mac-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch on behalf of Loren Engrav
> Sent: Mon 12/10/2007 10:43 AM
> To: r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch
> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
>  
> I think discussion now confused, at least on my end, as I agree too
> 
> Home directory in Preferences is good
> Drag and drop to go to new directories is good
> Random would be bad
> 
> But most often when I start R.app I go back to the place I was, which is
> usually not home, so finding the drop to drag takes some effort, merely
> double clicking seemed like it would be convenient
> 
> But I can drag and drop
> 
> And more code would make the thing fatter with more bugs
> So I can do it
> 
> 
> -- 
> Loren Engrav
> Univ Washington
> Seattle
> 
>> From: Kasper Daniel Hansen <khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU>
>> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:38:39 -0800
>> To: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
>> Cc: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>, "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch"
>> <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 9, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I understand, and can work with this
>>>> 
>>>> But then R in the Mac dock is not of much value as it always goes
>>>> "home"; no matter what you were working on last
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The purpose of the dock is to get quick access to the application -
>>> that has no "value" in terms of which workspace you want to start -
>>> it's still up to you, not the dock. What I was talking about was R in
>>> the dock, so I don't see the connection.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, as I said earlier, I think that changing the working directory
>>> on startup to some random path without user having a say in this is a
>>> really bad idea and I think a lot of users would find it disturbing.
>> 
>> And I think most everyone else agrees with what Simon says here..
>> 
>> Kasper
>> 
>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:08:34 -0500
>>>>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
>>>>> Cc: "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch" <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for the help
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah so, default is in Preferences and the new is under Misc in the
>>>>>> menu bar
>>>>>> I can do that and will
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But might it not be more convenient if on R.app start you went to
>>>>>> where you
>>>>>> were last time, since most often you wish to go to the place you
>>>>>> just left
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Although it would be possible to make that a configurable option,
>>>>> it'd
>>>>> definitely not want that. It would make R's behavior sort of random,
>>>>> because you would never know where it will start from ... a really
>>>>> bad
>>>>> thing (IMHO).
>>>>>  If you want to work on a specific project, it's much more
>>>>> convenient
>>>>> to just drag the directory on R to start it and you can then work on
>>>>> multiple projects conveniently and independently.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As for
>>>>>>> PS: Please use R-SIG-Mac for Mac-specific questions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is appearing in R-SIG-Mac.  What am I missing here?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oops, sorry, my bad, the "To" was showing R-devel for some
>>>>> mysterious
>>>>> reason...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 18:57:14 -0500
>>>>>>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
>>>>>>> Cc: "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch" <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:37 PM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Using Mac 10.4.11
>>>>>>>> And sessionInfo() say
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> sessionInfo()
>>>>>>>> R version 2.6.1 (2007-11-26)
>>>>>>>> powerpc-apple-darwin8.10.1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> locale:
>>>>>>>> en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> attached base packages:
>>>>>>>> [1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods
>>>>>>>> base
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Directory is ABC and history is XYZ
>>>>>>>> So I change directory to FGH and history to QRS
>>>>>>>> Then I quit R and say save workspace
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Then I start R
>>>>>>>> And am back to workspace ABC and history XYZ
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, if ABC and XYZ is in home and you didn't change the default
>>>>>>> settings and started R.app directly then that is exactly as
>>>>>>> expected.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Would seem I should be at FGH and QRS
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why? That would be quite bad as FGH and QRS have nothing to do
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> your home. The whole point of changing a directory is usually
>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>> the fact that you don't want to overwrite the workspace in your
>>>>>>> home.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What am I missing? Is it staring me in the face and I cannot see
>>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd say reading 4.3.3 in the R for Mac FAQ may possibly explain
>>>>>>> this a
>>>>>>> bit ...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PS: Please use R-SIG-Mac for Mac-specific questions.
>>>>>>> 
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