[R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me

[Loren Engrav]

I think discussion now confused, at least on my end, as I agree too

Home directory in Preferences is good
Drag and drop to go to new directories is good
Random would be bad

But most often when I start R.app I go back to the place I was, which is
usually not home, so finding the drop to drag takes some effort, merely
double clicking seemed like it would be convenient

But I can drag and drop

And more code would make the thing fatter with more bugs
So I can do it


-- 
Loren Engrav
Univ Washington
Seattle

> From: Kasper Daniel Hansen <khansen at stat.Berkeley.EDU>
> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:38:39 -0800
> To: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
> Cc: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>, "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch"
> <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
> 
> 
> On Dec 9, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>> 
>>> I understand, and can work with this
>>> 
>>> But then R in the Mac dock is not of much value as it always goes
>>> "home"; no matter what you were working on last
>>> 
>> 
>> The purpose of the dock is to get quick access to the application -
>> that has no "value" in terms of which workspace you want to start -
>> it's still up to you, not the dock. What I was talking about was R in
>> the dock, so I don't see the connection.
>> 
>> Anyway, as I said earlier, I think that changing the working directory
>> on startup to some random path without user having a say in this is a
>> really bad idea and I think a lot of users would find it disturbing.
> 
> And I think most everyone else agrees with what Simon says here..
> 
> Kasper
> 
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:08:34 -0500
>>>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
>>>> Cc: "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch" <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for the help
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ah so, default is in Preferences and the new is under Misc in the
>>>>> menu bar
>>>>> I can do that and will
>>>>> 
>>>>> But might it not be more convenient if on R.app start you went to
>>>>> where you
>>>>> were last time, since most often you wish to go to the place you
>>>>> just left
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Although it would be possible to make that a configurable option,
>>>> it'd
>>>> definitely not want that. It would make R's behavior sort of random,
>>>> because you would never know where it will start from ... a really
>>>> bad
>>>> thing (IMHO).
>>>>  If you want to work on a specific project, it's much more
>>>> convenient
>>>> to just drag the directory on R to start it and you can then work on
>>>> multiple projects conveniently and independently.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> As for
>>>>>> PS: Please use R-SIG-Mac for Mac-specific questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is appearing in R-SIG-Mac.  What am I missing here?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Oops, sorry, my bad, the "To" was showing R-devel for some
>>>> mysterious
>>>> reason...
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Simon
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 18:57:14 -0500
>>>>>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
>>>>>> Cc: "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch" <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:37 PM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Using Mac 10.4.11
>>>>>>> And sessionInfo() say
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> sessionInfo()
>>>>>>> R version 2.6.1 (2007-11-26)
>>>>>>> powerpc-apple-darwin8.10.1
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> locale:
>>>>>>> en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> attached base packages:
>>>>>>> [1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods
>>>>>>> base
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Directory is ABC and history is XYZ
>>>>>>> So I change directory to FGH and history to QRS
>>>>>>> Then I quit R and say save workspace
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Then I start R
>>>>>>> And am back to workspace ABC and history XYZ
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, if ABC and XYZ is in home and you didn't change the default
>>>>>> settings and started R.app directly then that is exactly as
>>>>>> expected.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Would seem I should be at FGH and QRS
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why? That would be quite bad as FGH and QRS have nothing to do
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> your home. The whole point of changing a directory is usually
>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>> the fact that you don't want to overwrite the workspace in your
>>>>>> home.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What am I missing? Is it staring me in the face and I cannot see
>>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd say reading 4.3.3 in the R for Mac FAQ may possibly explain
>>>>>> this a
>>>>>> bit ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> PS: Please use R-SIG-Mac for Mac-specific questions.
>>>>>> 
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