[R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me

[Kasper Daniel Hansen]

On Dec 9, 2007, at 7:12 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote:

>
> On Dec 9, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>
>> I understand, and can work with this
>>
>> But then R in the Mac dock is not of much value as it always goes
>> "home"; no matter what you were working on last
>>
>
> The purpose of the dock is to get quick access to the application -
> that has no "value" in terms of which workspace you want to start -
> it's still up to you, not the dock. What I was talking about was R in
> the dock, so I don't see the connection.
>
> Anyway, as I said earlier, I think that changing the working directory
> on startup to some random path without user having a say in this is a
> really bad idea and I think a lot of users would find it disturbing.

And I think most everyone else agrees with what Simon says here..

Kasper


> Cheers,
> Simon
>
>
>>
>>> From: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
>>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:08:34 -0500
>>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
>>> Cc: "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch" <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for the help
>>>>
>>>> Ah so, default is in Preferences and the new is under Misc in the
>>>> menu bar
>>>> I can do that and will
>>>>
>>>> But might it not be more convenient if on R.app start you went to
>>>> where you
>>>> were last time, since most often you wish to go to the place you
>>>> just left
>>>>
>>>
>>> Although it would be possible to make that a configurable option,
>>> it'd
>>> definitely not want that. It would make R's behavior sort of random,
>>> because you would never know where it will start from ... a really
>>> bad
>>> thing (IMHO).
>>>  If you want to work on a specific project, it's much more  
>>> convenient
>>> to just drag the directory on R to start it and you can then work on
>>> multiple projects conveniently and independently.
>>>
>>>
>>>> As for
>>>>> PS: Please use R-SIG-Mac for Mac-specific questions.
>>>>
>>>> This is appearing in R-SIG-Mac.  What am I missing here?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Oops, sorry, my bad, the "To" was showing R-devel for some  
>>> mysterious
>>> reason...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Simon Urbanek <simon.urbanek at r-project.org>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 18:57:14 -0500
>>>>> To: Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu>
>>>>> Cc: "r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch" <r-sig-mac at stat.math.ethz.ch>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R.app ?bug or me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:37 PM, Loren Engrav wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Using Mac 10.4.11
>>>>>> And sessionInfo() say
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sessionInfo()
>>>>>> R version 2.6.1 (2007-11-26)
>>>>>> powerpc-apple-darwin8.10.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> locale:
>>>>>> en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8/C/en_US.UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> attached base packages:
>>>>>> [1] stats     graphics  grDevices utils     datasets  methods
>>>>>> base
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Directory is ABC and history is XYZ
>>>>>> So I change directory to FGH and history to QRS
>>>>>> Then I quit R and say save workspace
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I start R
>>>>>> And am back to workspace ABC and history XYZ
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, if ABC and XYZ is in home and you didn't change the default
>>>>> settings and started R.app directly then that is exactly as
>>>>> expected.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Would seem I should be at FGH and QRS
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? That would be quite bad as FGH and QRS have nothing to do  
>>>>> with
>>>>> your home. The whole point of changing a directory is usually
>>>>> exactly
>>>>> the fact that you don't want to overwrite the workspace in your
>>>>> home.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> What am I missing? Is it staring me in the face and I cannot see
>>>>>> it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd say reading 4.3.3 in the R for Mac FAQ may possibly explain
>>>>> this a
>>>>> bit ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: Please use R-SIG-Mac for Mac-specific questions.
>>>>>
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