[R-sig-Geo] Is the raster package still receiving updates?

Roger Bivand Roger.Bivand at nhh.no
Sun Oct 22 20:01:35 CEST 2017


On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Barry Rowlingson wrote:

> Here's what I think should happen:
>
> Robert Hijmans lets us know what his vision of raster is, and how he plans
> to support it.

Right, this is essential, and is planned for the meeting Edzer mentioned 
in February 2018.

I've added an issue to r-spatial/discuss:

https://github.com/r-spatial/discuss/issues/17

simply to have a place to talk. This is the place (for now) to look for 
information as it accrues. The raster repo is under SVN on R-Forge, of 
course.

I'll be writing to Robert and others directly about this.

Roger

>
> He should say if he wishes to carry on as maintainer or not. If not, we
> need a new maintainer and then we can think about moving development to
> gitlab, or whatever.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Alexander Brown <a.brown at ieee.org> wrote:
>
>> I too expect to rely on the raster package for years, and would be willing
>> to help to the extent of my ability and resources.
>>
>> Alex Brown (a.brown at ieee.org)
>> http://faculty.uml.edu/abrown  -->
>> https://sites.google.com/site/alexbrownuml
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Vijay Lulla <vijaylulla at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just like Mike I too will rely on raster for many years still and I will
>> be
>> > very happy to support efforts on this or whatever else the community
>> > leaders (Edzer, Roger, and others) decide is the best way for us to move
>> > forward.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Vijay.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 5:32 AM, Edzer Pebesma <
>> > edzer.pebesma at uni-muenster.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The the NOTEs on CRAN and the issues raised on Mike's raster-rforge GH
>> > > repo to me suggest that raster has, for a while now, reached a mature
>> > > state. Of course, you'd wish that raster development, in terms of
>> > > extending its power and features, would continue the pace it did 10
>> > > years ago, but that's a different issue. Mike has write access to the
>> > > raster r-forge sources, it shouldn't be hard to support Robert with
>> > > current issues.
>> > >
>> > > Right after rstudio::conf (Feb 4/5) I'm meeting with Robert Hijmans and
>> > > Etienne Racine, to discuss, and work on raster future and integration
>> of
>> > > rasters and stars. Anyone interested, feel free to join.
>> > >
>> > > Stars has the ambition to jump over raster, in the sense that it
>> doesn't
>> > > want to have the local hard drive as a limitation. That calls for
>> > > rethinking quite a few things. So far, things are still all in main
>> > > memory but it already integrates with sf:
>> > >
>> > > https://gist.github.com/edzer/381dac079ddcd5174be31209675b3822
>> > >
>> > > and handles time stacks of different attributes in single objects. Feed
>> > > back welcome as always; will write up the first blog in a few weeks.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 10/21/2017 10:41 AM, Roger Bivand wrote:
>> > > > Yes, this sounds fruitful. For now, I suggest that those wishing to
>> > > enhance raster do so in an additional package enhancing raster and
>> > > depending on it. Immediately, we should help Robert resolve the notes
>> in
>> > > the tests, they do not affect functionality now, but deserve attention
>> to
>> > > bring the package into full CRAN compliance. I can help with this.
>> > > >
>> > > > Roger
>> > > >
>> > > > Roger Bivand
>> > > > Norwegian School of Economics
>> > > > Bergen, Norway
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Fra: Chris Reudenbach
>> > > > Sendt: lørdag 21. oktober, 09.01
>> > > > Emne: Re: [R-sig-Geo] Is the raster package still receiving updates?
>> > > > Til: r-sig-geo at r-project.org
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Many of us rely on the raster package as a crucial basis for their
>> > work.
>> > > Big thank to Robert.  Nevertheless to contribute needs to focus needs
>> and
>> > > ressources.  Maybe an information exchange/discussion with Robert about
>> > > options such as if/how the interested community can support would be
>> more
>> > > productive. cheers Chris Am 21.10.2017 um 06:52 schrieb Roger Bivand: >
>> > The
>> > > CRAN raster package has not been abandoned, if it had, it would have
>> been
>> > > reclassified as orphaned. Its test results have notes but no warnings
>> or
>> > > errors. It would be orphaned if the maintainer did not respond to CRAN
>> > > requests to resolve test errors. Consequently, you are suggesting a
>> fork,
>> > > and should rename any package. Only the maintainer may update existing
>> > CRAN
>> > > packages. I would not think that forking an existing CRAN package is
>> the
>> > > most productive way of contributing to the community. The package has
>> > many
>> > > reverse dependencies, so setting up a test framework to find backwards
>> > > incompatibilities would be crucial. > > Of course, all contributions
>> are
>> > > welcome. > > Roger > > Roger Bivand > Norwegian School of Economics >
>> > > Bergen, Norway > > > > Fra: Michael Sumner > Sendt: lørdag 21. oktober,
>> > > 06.28 > Emne: Re: [R-sig-Geo] Is the raster package still receiving
>> > > updates? > Til: Hodgess, Erin > Kopi: R-sig-geo Mailing List > > >
>> Great!
>> > > I'm keen, but haven't done the work needed to flesh this out properly:
>> > > https://github.com/mdsumner/raster-rforge/issues I have not checked if
>> > > there's been any commits to r-forge since I cloned this. Cheers, Mike
>> On
>> > > Sat, 21 Oct 2017, 12:58 Hodgess, Erin, wrote: > I could take a swat at
>> > it,
>> > > if you wish. Please do send me the list of > fixes. I could start in
>> > about
>> > > a week, if that would work. > Sincerely, > Erin > > > Erin M. Hodgess >
>> > > Associate Professor > Department of Mathematics and Statistics >
>> > University
>> > > of Houston - Downtown > mailto: hodgesse at uhd.edu > >
>> > > ________________________________________ > From: R-sig-Geo on behalf
>> of
>> > > Michael > Sumner > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 8:05 PM > To: Thiago
>> V.
>> > > dos Santos > Cc: R-sig-geo Mailing List > Subject: Re: [R-sig-Geo] Is
>> the
>> > > raster package still receiving updates? > > No, it's effectively
>> > abandoned.
>> > > No concrete plans known. > > I'm interested to keep it going and have
>> > kept
>> > > a list of fixes needed, but > not sure when or if I'll get to it. > >
>> I'd
>> > > support any efforts in this, I'll rely on raster for many years still.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Cheers, Mike > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, 02:05 Thiago V. dos Santos via
>> > > R-sig-Geo, < > r-sig-geo at r-project.org> wrote: > > > Dear list, > > >
>> >
>> > I
>> > > realized that the latest version of the raster package was released on
>> >
>> > >
>> > > CRAN over a year ago. > > > > I also noticed that Robert's
>> participation
>> > in
>> > > this list has become rather > > scarce. > > > > I was just wondering
>> > > whether the raster package is still receiving > updates? > > > >
>> > Greetings,
>> > > > > -- Thiago V. dos Santos > > > > Postdoctoral Research Fellow > >
>> > > Department of Climate and Space Science and Engineering > > University
>> of
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>> > Vijay Lulla, Ph.D.
>> >
>> > Assistant Professor,
>> > Dept. of Geography,
>> > Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI)
>> > 425 University Blvd, CA-207C.
>> > Indianapolis, IN-46202
>> > vlulla at iupui.edu
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