[R-sig-Geo] Is the raster package still receiving updates?

Wed Nov 8 20:42:33 CET 2017

On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 at 17:51 Robert J. Hijmans <r.hijmans at gmail.com> wrote:

> For a variety of reasons, I have not been able to do much work on raster
> for the past year. And most of my thinking about it, and some work, has
> been around a next generation replacement that is simpler in use and much
> faster.
> But for now, over the coming months, I will make sure that it gets updated
> and bugs get fixed.
>
> Best, Robert
>
>
Excellent, thanks Robert!   So I had somewhere to collect issues I made a
(now stale) fork of the R-forge repo here:

https://github.com/mdsumner/raster-rforge

I plan to review each issue mentioned and summarize them, but for now it's
a reasonable place to keep the notes. Should we simply email you details of
issues, or use the systems on r-forge, or do you perhaps plan to migrate to
Github?  If the plan is to stay where it is I'll just use my repo to share
ideas and planned updates.

On Github I think the potential for collective contribution from the
comunity is far greater. I'd also love to see raster converted to roxygen2
(I'm happy to do that, just need to know if it's a welcome change) and to
have a suite of automated tests in the package as well.

If SVN/r-forge is going to the be the system used that's fine, but I really
think we need a more accessible forum for sharing issues, and I'm quite
sure that most people will ignore anything that anyone else sets up unless
you approve it.

Cheers, Mike

>
> On Sunday, October 22, 2017, Barry Rowlingson <
> b.rowlingson at lancaster.ac.uk
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','b.rowlingson at lancaster.ac.uk');>> wrote:
>
> > Here's what I think should happen:
> >
> >  Robert Hijmans lets us know what his vision of raster is, and how he
> plans
> > to support it.
> >
> >  He should say if he wishes to carry on as maintainer or not. If not, we
> > need a new maintainer and then we can think about moving development to
> > gitlab, or whatever.
> >
> > Barry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Alexander Brown <a.brown at ieee.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I too expect to rely on the raster package for years, and would be
> > willing
> > > to help to the extent of my ability and resources.
> > >
> > > Alex Brown (a.brown at ieee.org)
> > > http://faculty.uml.edu/abrown  -->
> > > https://sites.google.com/site/alexbrownuml
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Vijay Lulla <vijaylulla at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just like Mike I too will rely on raster for many years still and I
> > will
> > > be
> > > > very happy to support efforts on this or whatever else the community
> > > > leaders (Edzer, Roger, and others) decide is the best way for us to
> > move
> > > > forward.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Vijay.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 5:32 AM, Edzer Pebesma <
> > > > edzer.pebesma at uni-muenster.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The the NOTEs on CRAN and the issues raised on Mike's raster-rforge
> > GH
> > > > > repo to me suggest that raster has, for a while now, reached a
> mature
> > > > > state. Of course, you'd wish that raster development, in terms of
> > > > > extending its power and features, would continue the pace it did 10
> > > > > years ago, but that's a different issue. Mike has write access to
> the
> > > > > raster r-forge sources, it shouldn't be hard to support Robert with
> > > > > current issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right after rstudio::conf (Feb 4/5) I'm meeting with Robert Hijmans
> > and
> > > > > Etienne Racine, to discuss, and work on raster future and
> integration
> > > of
> > > > > rasters and stars. Anyone interested, feel free to join.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stars has the ambition to jump over raster, in the sense that it
> > > doesn't
> > > > > want to have the local hard drive as a limitation. That calls for
> > > > > rethinking quite a few things. So far, things are still all in main
> > > > > memory but it already integrates with sf:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://gist.github.com/edzer/381dac079ddcd5174be31209675b3822
> > > > >
> > > > > and handles time stacks of different attributes in single objects.
> > Feed
> > > > > back welcome as always; will write up the first blog in a few
> weeks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/21/2017 10:41 AM, Roger Bivand wrote:
> > > > > > Yes, this sounds fruitful. For now, I suggest that those wishing
> to
> > > > > enhance raster do so in an additional package enhancing raster and
> > > > > depending on it. Immediately, we should help Robert resolve the
> notes
> > > in
> > > > > the tests, they do not affect functionality now, but deserve
> > attention
> > > to
> > > > > bring the package into full CRAN compliance. I can help with this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roger Bivand
> > > > > > Norwegian School of Economics
> > > > > > Bergen, Norway
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fra: Chris Reudenbach
> > > > > > Sendt: lørdag 21. oktober, 09.01
> > > > > > Emne: Re: [R-sig-Geo] Is the raster package still receiving
> > updates?
> > > > > > Til: r-sig-geo at r-project.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many of us rely on the raster package as a crucial basis for
> their
> > > > work.
> > > > > Big thank to Robert.  Nevertheless to contribute needs to focus
> needs
> > > and
> > > > > ressources.  Maybe an information exchange/discussion with Robert
> > about
> > > > > options such as if/how the interested community can support would
> be
> > > more
> > > > > productive. cheers Chris Am 21.10.2017 um 06:52 schrieb Roger
> > Bivand: >
> > > > The
> > > > > CRAN raster package has not been abandoned, if it had, it would
> have
> > > been
> > > > > reclassified as orphaned. Its test results have notes but no
> warnings
> > > or
> > > > > errors. It would be orphaned if the maintainer did not respond to
> > CRAN
> > > > > requests to resolve test errors. Consequently, you are suggesting a
> > > fork,
> > > > > and should rename any package. Only the maintainer may update
> > existing
> > > > CRAN
> > > > > packages. I would not think that forking an existing CRAN package
> is
> > > the
> > > > > most productive way of contributing to the community. The package
> has
> > > > many
> > > > > reverse dependencies, so setting up a test framework to find
> > backwards
> > > > > incompatibilities would be crucial. > > Of course, all
> contributions
> > > are
> > > > > welcome. > > Roger > > Roger Bivand > Norwegian School of
> Economics >
> > > > > Bergen, Norway > > > > Fra: Michael Sumner > Sendt: lørdag 21.
> > oktober,
> > > > > 06.28 > Emne: Re: [R-sig-Geo] Is the raster package still receiving
> > > > > updates? > Til: Hodgess, Erin > Kopi: R-sig-geo Mailing List > > >
> > > Great!
> > > > > I'm keen, but haven't done the work needed to flesh this out
> > properly:
> > > > > https://github.com/mdsumner/raster-rforge/issues I have not
> checked
> > if
> > > > > there's been any commits to r-forge since I cloned this. Cheers,
> Mike
> > > On
> > > > > Sat, 21 Oct 2017, 12:58 Hodgess, Erin, wrote: > I could take a swat
> > at
> > > > it,
> > > > > if you wish. Please do send me the list of > fixes. I could start
> in
> > > > about
> > > > > a week, if that would work. > Sincerely, > Erin > > > Erin M.
> > Hodgess >
> > > > > Associate Professor > Department of Mathematics and Statistics >
> > > > University
> > > > > of Houston - Downtown > mailto: hodgesse at uhd.edu > >
> > > > > ________________________________________ > From: R-sig-Geo on
> behalf
> > > of
> > > > > Michael > Sumner > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 8:05 PM > To:
> > Thiago
> > > V.
> > > > > dos Santos > Cc: R-sig-geo Mailing List > Subject: Re: [R-sig-Geo]
> Is
> > > the
> > > > > raster package still receiving updates? > > No, it's effectively
> > > > abandoned.
> > > > > No concrete plans known. > > I'm interested to keep it going and
> have
> > > > kept
> > > > > a list of fixes needed, but > not sure when or if I'll get to it.
> > >
> > > I'd
> > > > > support any efforts in this, I'll rely on raster for many years
> > still.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Mike > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017, 02:05 Thiago V. dos Santos
> via
> > > > > R-sig-Geo, < > r-sig-geo at r-project.org> wrote: > > > Dear list, >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I
> > > > > realized that the latest version of the raster package was released
> > on
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > CRAN over a year ago. > > > > I also noticed th
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> Robert's
> > > participation
> > > > in
> > > > > this list has become rather > > scarce. > > > > I was just
> wondering
> > > > > whether the raster package is still receiving > updates? > > > >
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > -- Thiago V. dos Santos > > > > Postdoctoral Research Fellow >
> >
> > > > > Department of Climate and Space Science and Engineering > >
> > University
> > > of
> > > > > Michigan > > > > _______________________________________________ >
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> > Michael
> > > > > Sumner > Software and Database Engineer > Australian Antarctic
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> > > > Vijay Lulla, Ph.D.
> > > >
> > > > Assistant Professor,
> > > > Dept. of Geography,
> > > > Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI)
> > > > 425 University Blvd, CA-207C.
> > > > Indianapolis, IN-46202
> > > > vlulla at iupui.edu
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