[R-pkg-devel] Logical Inconsistency of check regarding URL?

Jeff Newmiller jdnewm|| @end|ng |rom dcn@d@v|@@c@@u@
Tue Nov 29 08:51:38 CET 2022


Educating package authors about the semantics of URLs is not really something the CRAN maintainers should have to do. A slash at the end of a URL implies different URL construction for relative URLs based on the original one. [1]

I am not sure why you think https is no more secure than http... that is exactly why it exists. Again, not the job of CRAN maintainers to explain this to you.

It is not appropriate to rely on URL redirection (from deepbionics to github) in a package... redirections are extra work and hide the true url from the user anyway.

As for having the same URL accepted in one package but rejected in another... well, CRAN moderators are not perfect. They try to automate identification of issues that have previously caused problems, but maybe they don't catch everything every time.

Yes, making software that doesn't break in odd situations is hard. Thank you for making an effort, and thank CRAN for remembering all of these mysterious problems and warning you to fix things that might only break in situations you haven't directly encountered before they puzzle new R users.

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5948659/when-should-i-use-a-trailing-slash-in-my-url

On November 28, 2022 11:19:40 PM PST, "Dr. habil. Michael Thrun" <m.thrun using gmx.net> wrote:
>Dear All,
>I got from Uwe the following message after uploading an update of my package “DatabionicSwarm”.  "Found the  following (possibly) invalid URLs: URL:  https://www.deepbionics.org (moved to  https://mthrun.github.io/index) From: DESCRIPTION Status: 301 Message: Moved Permanently
>Please change http --> https, add trailing slashes, or follow moved content as appropriate.
>"
> I asked then
>"
>Dear Uwe,
>your request states to either
>Please  change http --> https, add trailing slashes or to  follow moved content as appropriate.
>As it is not  appropriate to follow content, I select the first   choice. the URL is 
>"https://www.deepbionics.org/" 
> which mets both conditions of beeing "https" and 
> having at the end one "/".
>What is the problem?  Please elaborate.
>You already accepted another  package GeneralizedUmatrix today with exactly same 
> url. I really dont understand it. Please be so kind 
> to elabore.”
>
> As an answer I got
>"You are abusig the system! Again: <Followed by same Message as above>”
>
>Hence, I have several questions.
>First, do we not communicate with CRAN anymore through the submission procedure of the package? If not, which is the correct line of communication in such a case?
>
>Second, are the answers that we get now fully automatically generated? It would be strange for me to believe that Uwe would provide such an answer to my polite request.
>
>Third, why can I have a CRAN package "DataVisualizations" with this URL online, another one named "GeneralizedUmatrix" uploaded the same day with the same URL, which both are OK, but the URL in "DatabionicSwarm" is not?
>
>Forth, can't we have more clear feedback messages?
>I mean, having in the description the URL "https://www.deepbionics.org/" and getting the feedback "http --> https, add trailing slashes or ... "does not make any sense. Also, could someone please explain why is a "/" at the end of an URL necessary? What is the technical background to this?
>
>Fifth, why do we need https/TLS/SSL? I have to pay a monthly fee for a certificate to apply this to my website so that CRAN accepts my URL - and as far as I can tell, it makes things only more complex but not more secure (e.g., https://www.elektronik-kompendium.de/sites/net/1906041.htm). Or in other words, it seems to me that we are expected to pay to follow the guideline of having a certificate instead of making better code with fewer bugs. I am no security expert, but my baseline in computer science is always if a tool is more complex, then the chances are lower that it works as intended, and the possibilities are higher that it has unintended and potentially risky side effects.    
>
>Best Regards
>
>Michael
> 
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