[R] R Founding

[Matt Shotwell]

On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 17:30 -0400, Tal Galili wrote:
> Hello dear Jaroslaw,
> I strongly agree with you that the R foundation should have an easier method
> of enabling people to give donations.
> At the same time, I feel there is a (friendly) disagreement between us on
> how such money should be used.
> 
> Your massage has inspired me to write a post on the topic, titles:
       
Was this --^ a Freudian slip? In any case, it seems consistent with your
notion of compensation for open-source developers. :) Interesting post
Tal.

-Matt

> "Open source and money – why R developers shouldn’t be
> paid<http://www.r-statistics.com/2010/09/open-source-and-money-why-r-developers-shouldnt-be-paid/>
> "
> 
> I hope you, and other community members, would find interest in it.
> 
> Best,
> Tal
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> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:49 PM, jaropis <jaropis at zg.home.pl> wrote:
> 
> > A few days ago Tal Galili posted a message about some controversies
> > concerning the future of R. Having read the discussions, especially those
> > following Ross Ihaka's post, I have come to the conclusion, that, as usual,
> > the problem is money. I doubt there would be discussions about dropping R
> > in
> > its present form if the R-Foundation were properly funded and could hire
> > computer scientists, programmers and statisticians. If a commercial company
> > is able to provide big-database and multicore solutions, then so would a
> > properly founded R-Foundation.
> >
> > In my opinion the main reason for the lack of funding is that the
> > Foundation
> > does not want to accept it from users and waits for the likes of Google to
> > bring them a sack of money. I have already posted about this, but this
> > seems
> > to be the time and place to repeat it: it is very difficult to donate
> > anything to the R-Foundation. First you have to find the appropriate link
> > at
> > the r-project page, then you have to fill out a form and send or fax it to
> > the Foundation. I am not comfortable sending my details over snail-mail or
> > fax.
> >
> > I would GLADLY donate 30-50$ each year just to see R develop, but there
> > needs to be a way for me to do it in a civilized manner. If the userbase of
> > R is over 2 million there will surely be 100,000 users who, like myself,
> > will happily fork out 40$ a year - would that help? you can do the
> > calculation yourselves. Set up a donation page in which I will be able to
> > pay by credit card or PayPal and you will start getting donations from
> > individual users. Advertise this at the startup message of the program: say
> > something like "support us at www.suppoRtR.com" and the money will start
> > coming. I am sure there would be enough to employ some foundation members
> > full-time, pay external CSs and even protect the system in court from those
> > who make money off of somebody else's work and do not give back to the
> > community (you know who I am talking about).
> >
> > R and the Foundation have helped a lot of us to do our research and make
> > real money. Now give us a chance to help you!
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Jaroslaw Piskorski
> >
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Matthew S. Shotwell
Graduate Student 
Division of Biostatistics and Epidemiology
Medical University of South Carolina