[R] R Founding

[Ravi Varadhan]

Enjoyed it very much!

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From: r-help-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] On
Behalf Of Tal Galili
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:31 PM
To: jaropis
Cc: r-help at stat.math.ethz.ch; ligges at statistik.tu-dortmund.de;
david at revolutionanalytics.com
Subject: Re: [R] R Founding

Hello dear Jaroslaw,
I strongly agree with you that the R foundation should have an easier method
of enabling people to give donations.
At the same time, I feel there is a (friendly) disagreement between us on
how such money should be used.

Your massage has inspired me to write a post on the topic, titles:
"Open source and money  why R developers shouldnt be
paid<http://www.r-statistics.com/2010/09/open-source-and-money-why-r-develop
ers-shouldnt-be-paid/>
"

I hope you, and other community members, would find interest in it.

Best,
Tal






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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:49 PM, jaropis <jaropis at zg.home.pl> wrote:

> A few days ago Tal Galili posted a message about some controversies 
> concerning the future of R. Having read the discussions, especially 
> those following Ross Ihaka's post, I have come to the conclusion, 
> that, as usual, the problem is money. I doubt there would be 
> discussions about dropping R in its present form if the R-Foundation 
> were properly funded and could hire computer scientists, programmers 
> and statisticians. If a commercial company is able to provide 
> big-database and multicore solutions, then so would a properly founded 
> R-Foundation.
>
> In my opinion the main reason for the lack of funding is that the 
> Foundation does not want to accept it from users and waits for the 
> likes of Google to bring them a sack of money. I have already posted 
> about this, but this seems to be the time and place to repeat it: it 
> is very difficult to donate anything to the R-Foundation. First you 
> have to find the appropriate link at the r-project page, then you have 
> to fill out a form and send or fax it to the Foundation. I am not 
> comfortable sending my details over snail-mail or fax.
>
> I would GLADLY donate 30-50$ each year just to see R develop, but 
> there needs to be a way for me to do it in a civilized manner. If the 
> userbase of R is over 2 million there will surely be 100,000 users 
> who, like myself, will happily fork out 40$ a year - would that help? 
> you can do the calculation yourselves. Set up a donation page in which 
> I will be able to pay by credit card or PayPal and you will start 
> getting donations from individual users. Advertise this at the startup 
> message of the program: say something like "support us at 
> www.suppoRtR.com" and the money will start coming. I am sure there 
> would be enough to employ some foundation members full-time, pay 
> external CSs and even protect the system in court from those who make 
> money off of somebody else's work and do not give back to the community
(you know who I am talking about).
>
> R and the Foundation have helped a lot of us to do our research and 
> make real money. Now give us a chance to help you!
>
>
> Regards
> Jaroslaw Piskorski
>
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