[R] Citing R/Packages Question

[stephen sefick]

I have have a package that I wrote called StreamMetabolism; which I
use to calculate single station stream metabolism from diurnal oxygen
curves.  I would love to publish something about it (I am also an
entering PhD student and need publications); however, I am not sure
the applicability out side of a small subset of stream ecologists.
Also, JSS or Rnews may not be the proper forum.  We could publish a
bulletin or something with all of the packages as an official document
to site.  Just a half fleshed idea.
thanks

Stephen Sefick

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Ravi Varadhan <RVaradhan at jhmi.edu> wrote:
> It would be nice if each package went through a peer-review and had a
> related publication (either in R-news or J Stat Soft).  This publication can
> then be used as the official citation for the package.  However, this still
> would not address updates and versions of the package.
>
> Ravi.
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> From: r-help-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] On
> Behalf Of roger koenker
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:36 AM
> To: Derek Ogle
> Cc: r-help at r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Citing R/Packages Question
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> I've had an email exchange with the authors of a recent paper in Nature who
> also made a good faith effort to cite both R and the quantreg package, and
> were told that the Nature "house style" didn't allow such citations so they
> were dropped from the published paper and the "supplementary material"
> appearing on the Nature website.
>
> Since the CRAN website makes a special effort to make prior versions of
> packages available, it would seem to me to be much more useful to cite
> version numbers than access dates.  There  are serious questions about the
> ephemerality of url citations, not all of which are adequately resolved by
> the Wayback machine, and access dating, but it would be nice to have some
> better standards for such contingent citations rather than leave authors at
> the mercy of copy editors.  I would also be interested in suggestions by
> other contributors.
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> url:    www.econ.uiuc.edu/~roger                Roger Koenker
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> On May 8, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Derek Ogle wrote:
>
>> I used R and the quantreg package in a manuscript that is currently in
>> the proofs stage.  I cited both R and quantreg as suggested by
>> citation() and noted the version of R and quantreg that I used in the
>> main text as
>>
>>
>>
>>  "All tests were computed with the R v2.9.0 statistical programming
>> language (R Development Core 2008).  Quantile regressions were
>> conducted with the quantreg v4.27 package (Koenker 2008) for R."
>>
>>
>>
>> The editor has asked me to also "provide the date when the webpage was
>> accessed" for both R and quantreg.
>>
>>
>>
>> This does not seem like an appropriate request to me as both R and the
>> quantreg package are versioned.  This request seems to me to be the
>> same
>> as asking someone when they purchased commercial package X version Y
>> (which I don't think would be asked).
>>
>>
>>
>> Am I thinking about this correctly or has the editor made a valid
>> request?
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be interested in any comments or opinions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Derek H. Ogle
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>> Associate Professor of Mathematical Sciences and Natural Resources
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>> Northland College
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-- 
Stephen Sefick

Let's not spend our time and resources thinking about things that are
so little or so large that all they really do for us is puff us up and
make us feel like gods.  We are mammals, and have not exhausted the
annoying little problems of being mammals.

								-K. Mullis