[R] Citing R/Packages Question

[Ravi Varadhan]

It would be nice if each package went through a peer-review and had a
related publication (either in R-news or J Stat Soft).  This publication can
then be used as the official citation for the package.  However, this still
would not address updates and versions of the package. 

Ravi.


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-----Original Message-----
From: r-help-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] On
Behalf Of roger koenker
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 8:36 AM
To: Derek Ogle
Cc: r-help at r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Citing R/Packages Question

I've had an email exchange with the authors of a recent paper in Nature who
also made a good faith effort to cite both R and the quantreg package, and
were told that the Nature "house style" didn't allow such citations so they
were dropped from the published paper and the "supplementary material"
appearing on the Nature website.

Since the CRAN website makes a special effort to make prior versions of
packages available, it would seem to me to be much more useful to cite
version numbers than access dates.  There  are serious questions about the
ephemerality of url citations, not all of which are adequately resolved by
the Wayback machine, and access dating, but it would be nice to have some
better standards for such contingent citations rather than leave authors at
the mercy of copy editors.  I would also be interested in suggestions by
other contributors.


url:    www.econ.uiuc.edu/~roger                Roger Koenker
email   rkoenker at uiuc.edu                       Department of Economics
vox:    217-333-4558                            University of Illinois
fax:    217-244-6678                            Champaign, IL 61820


On May 8, 2009, at 5:27 PM, Derek Ogle wrote:

> I used R and the quantreg package in a manuscript that is currently in 
> the proofs stage.  I cited both R and quantreg as suggested by
> citation() and noted the version of R and quantreg that I used in the 
> main text as
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>  "All tests were computed with the R v2.9.0 statistical programming 
> language (R Development Core 2008).  Quantile regressions were 
> conducted with the quantreg v4.27 package (Koenker 2008) for R."
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> The editor has asked me to also "provide the date when the webpage was
> accessed" for both R and quantreg.
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> This does not seem like an appropriate request to me as both R and the
> quantreg package are versioned.  This request seems to me to be the  
> same
> as asking someone when they purchased commercial package X version Y
> (which I don't think would be asked).
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> Am I thinking about this correctly or has the editor made a valid
> request?
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> I would be interested in any comments or opinions.
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> Dr. Derek H. Ogle
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> Associate Professor of Mathematical Sciences and Natural Resources
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