[R] R in the NY Times

Gabor Grothendieck ggrothendieck at gmail.com
Sat Jan 10 23:04:49 CET 2009


There do exist device manufacturers who GPL their device drivers, e.g.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/wanpipe/?branch_id=73783&release_id=290741

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Bert Gunter <gunter.berton at gene.com> wrote:
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> I think the substance of the issue is that the more eyes on code, the fewer
> the bugs (assuming a well-designed examination and debugging process is in
> place, as is typical for large open source projects like R). By this
> (obvious?)criterion, both the remarks about the dangers of proprietary code
> and the greater unreliability of R's lesser-used specialty packages, which
> by their nature tend to be less carefully perused, are valid.
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> Perhaps an argument is that certain code might not get written at all if it
> were not proprietary. Device drivers might be an example. But possibly other
> than that, it does seem like SAS needs to reconsider their marketing
> strategy and advertising claims.
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> Anecdotal remark: I orginally moved from S-Plus to R because R provided
> **better** documentation, support, and had fewer bugs, which were more
> rapidly fixed when found. One of my smarter "investment" choices.
>
> Cheers to all,
> Bert Gunter
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: r-help-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] On
> Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:32 AM
> To: Tony Breyal
> Cc: r-help at r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] R in the NY Times
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> 2009/1/10 Tony Breyal <tony.breyal at googlemail.com>:
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>> [SAS marketroid quote]
>> "In fact, SAS values open-source software."
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>  But clearly not enough to open-source SAS itself. It would seem that
> SAS values _other_people's_ open source.
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>  If SAS was open source and free, then SAS would collect on all the
> other things "Customers value SAS for" - support, testing, training,
> docs, etc etc. And there would be a lot more people using it.
>
>  Another quote: "We advocate approaches based on science" - closed
> source is closed knowledge and is nearer alchemy than science. I may
> use proprietary software for video editing or music production, but
> when it comes to science, it's got to be open.
>
> Barru
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