[R] R in the NY Times

[Kingsford Jones]

The reactions to the NYT article have certainly made for some
interesting reading.

Here are some of the links:

http://overdetermined.net/site/content/new-york-times-article-r

http://jackman.stanford.edu/blog/?p=1053

http://ggorjan.blogspot.com/2009/01/new-york-times-on-r.html

several posts on Andrew Gelman's blog:
http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/blog/

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7nwgq/the_new_york_times_notices_the_r_programming/

comments here: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/08/r-you-ready-for-r/


It's too bad that SAS has reacted to the negative reactions to their
NYT quote with more FUD.  The quote that Tony posted is just a
thinly-veiled jab at R (veiled by a disingenuous "we value open
source" veneer).  Perhaps SAS is shooting themselves in the foot with
their reactions; aren't they making it harder if they should ever
decide the best thing to do is to embrace R and the philosophies
behind it?  Four years ago, Marc Schwartz posted interesting comments
realted to this:

http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/help/04/12/9497.html


On another note, I wonder why in the various conversations there seems
to be pervasive views that a) the FDA won't accept work done in R, and
b) SAS is the only way to effectively handle data?


best,

Kingsford Jones




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> On 7 Jan, 14:50, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwa... at comcast.net> wrote:
>> on 01/07/2009 08:44 AM Kevin E. Thorpe wrote:
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>> > Zaslavsky, Alan M. wrote:
>> >> This article is accompanied by nice pictures of Robert and Ross.
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>> >> Data Analysts Captivated by Power of R
>> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/business-computing/07pro...
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>> >> January 7, 2009 Data Analysts Captivated by R's Power By ASHLEE VANCE
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>> >> SAS says it has noticed R's rising popularity at universities,
>> >> despite educational discounts on its own software, but it dismisses
>> >> the technology as being of interest to a limited set of people
>> >> working on very hard tasks.
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>> >> "I think it addresses a niche market for high-end data analysts that
>> >> want free, readily available code," said Anne H. Milley, director of
>> >> technology product marketing at SAS. She adds, "We have customers who
>> >> build engines for aircraft. I am happy they are not using freeware
>> >> when I get on a jet."
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>> > Thanks for posting.  Does anyone else find the statement by SAS to be
>> > humourous yet arrogant and short-sighted?
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>> > Kevin
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>> It is an ignorant comment by a marketing person who has been spoon fed
>> her lines...it is also a comment being made from a very defensive and
>> insecure posture.
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>> Congrats to R Core and the R Community. This is yet another sign of R's
>> growth and maturity.
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>> Regards,
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>> Marc Schwartz
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