[R] Junk or not Junk ???

[Duncan Murdoch]

On 07/12/2007 12:26 AM, Henrik Bengtsson wrote:
> On 06/12/2007, Loren Engrav <engrav at u.washington.edu> wrote:
>> As for news readers
>> I found R and R.mac and R.Bio on the sites you recommend, thank you very
>> much, they would avoid the individual emails, but then I would have to go
>> look at them, which might be Ok
>>
>> Deluge? Well, there are from R and Bio and R-Mac every morning 30 or 35, and
>> 10-15 more during the daytime, and ~50 deletes is painful
>>
>> But then every morning one or two are useful so...
> 
> This what you want to you email filtering for.  Create a (sub)folder
> named "r-help", setup an email filter that sends all message that has
> a subject starting with "[R] " to that folder.  That way they will not
> clutter up your inbox, but you can still browser the r-help messages.

That test will occasionally misclassify, because some private replies 
might keep the [R] in the subject.  A more reliable test, if you can 
work with the undisplayed message headers, is to look for "r-help" in 
the List-Id: header.

Duncan Murdoch
> 
> You haven't told us your email client, but pretty much any client I
> know of supports this.  I use gmail as my client and there it is very
> simple.  This way reading message is no different from reading them
> via a news reader.
> 
>> Still would be fun to understand why some R are junk and some are not
>>
>> For example
>> Today received two emails from the same person, one junk and the other not
>>
>> The Not Junk then went
>> from sweep.unicas.it
>> to phil2.ethz.ch
>> to hypatia.math.ethz.ch
>>
>> The Junk went
>> from sweep.unicas.it directly to
>> to hypatia.math.ethz.ch
>>
>> Otherwise the same, so why one junk and the other not?
> 
> FYI, I very very rarely get false positives (from the r-help lists)
> and hardly any spam for that sake (thanks!) and I've been on the list
> for a long time.  I couldn't find a single one during the last 30 days
> in my gmail spam box.
> 
> It is impossible to tell why some of your message are falsely
> classified as spam without know what your email client is.  Some
> clients have there own build in spam filtering that you can train by
> pressing "This is spam/This is not spam", whereas others rely on their
> email provider to analyze all messages and add a spam score in the
> email header and then you can set up the client to filter those out
> without much local analysis.  The latter is common at universities.
> 
> As already been suggested, it is more likely that this something that
> you email provider/sys adm should be able to help you out with.  To me
> it sounds unlikely that there is something "wrong" with the R messages
> or that R mail server is at fault.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> /Henrik
> 
> 
> 
>> Thank you
>>
>> Engrav
>> Univ Washington
>> Seattle
>>
>>
>>> From: David Hewitt <dhewitt at vims.edu>
>>> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 07:13:12 -0800 (PST)
>>> To: <r-help at r-project.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [R] Junk or not Junk ???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Loren Engrav wrote:
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> As per advice from several R users I have set
>>>>
>>>> r-project.org, stat.math.ethz.ch,fhcrc.org, stat.ethz.ch, math.ethz.ch,
>>>> hypatia.math.ethz.ch
>>>>
>>>>  all to be "safe domains"
>>>>
>>>> But still some R emails go to Junk and require to be found manually
>>>>
>>>> I have explored the issue with Univ Wash computing to no avail
>>>>
>>>> Is this just how it is or have I still missed the "fix" to keep R emails
>>>> out
>>>> of junk?
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________
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>>>> PLEASE do read the posting guide
>>>> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>>>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I suspect most people that stay on this list read most posts through a news
>>> reader... you might consider doing the same. I can't even imagine keeping up
>>> with the daily deluge of individual emails.
>>>
>>> http://www.nabble.com/R-help-f13820.html
>>>
>>> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.r.general
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> David Hewitt
>>> Virginia Institute of Marine Science
>>> http://www.vims.edu/fish/students/dhewitt/
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>> ______________________________________________
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>> PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
>> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>>
> 
> ______________________________________________
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