[R] A comment about R:
Detlef Steuer
detlef.steuer at hsu-hamburg.de
Thu Jan 5 11:03:57 CET 2006
Only or the record:
There is a wiki for R in general, used by only but a few people, annouced here some year(s) ago:
http://fawn.unibw-hamburg.de/cgi-bin/Rwiki.pl
The question is: one or more wikis?
Detlef
On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:35:17 +0100
Philippe Grosjean <phgrosjean at sciviews.org> wrote:
> David Forrest wrote:
> > [...]
> > Any volunteers?
>
> Yes, me (well, partly...)! Here is what I propose: this is a very
> lengthy thread in R-Help, with many interesting ideas and suggestions. I
> fear that, as it happens too often, those nice ideas will be lost
> because of the support used: email! By nature, emails are read and then
> deleted (well, there is the R-Help archive, but anyway, threads in a
> mailing list is not at all the best tool to make collaborative documents
> like those tutorials and co).
>
> I just cooked a little Wiki *dedicated to R beginners* (meaning they can
> contribute too, and are very welcome to discuss their problems -possibly
> trivial for others-). It is available at
> http://www.sciviews.org/_rgui/wiki. For the moment, everyone can edit
> and add pages, but I will restrict rights in the future to logged users
> only (with everybody allowed to log in at any time). So that we will be
> able to track who made changes (authorship).
>
> For those who do not know the Wiki concept, it is a very simple way of
> working together in the same documents. The concept has proven very
> powerful with a good example being Wikipedia, that is becoming one of
> the largest encyclopedia in the world... and also as accurate as
> Encyclopedia Britannica (but read this:
> http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051212/full/438900a.html).
>
> Here is the introduction of the R (GUI) Wiki:
>
> This Wiki is mainly dedicated to deal with R beginners problems.
> Although we would like to emphasize using R GUIs (Graphical User
> Interfaces), this Wiki is not restricted to those GUIs: one can also
> deal with command-line approaches. The main idea is thus to have
> material contributed by both beginners, and by more advanced R users,
> that will help novices or casual users of R (http://www.r-project.org).
>
> Overview
>
> * The various documents in the [[wiki section]] explain how to use
> DokuWiki to edit documents in this site.
>
> * The [[beginners section]] is dedicated to... beginners (share
> experience, expose problems and difficulties useful to share with other
> beginners, or to get help from more advanced people).
>
> * The [[tutorials section]] is the place where you can put various R
> session examples, or short tutorials on either general or specific use of R.
>
> * The [[easier section]] aims to collect together various pieces of R
> code that simplifies various tasks (especially for beginners) and that
> will ultimately be compiled in a âeasieRâ R packages on CRAN.
>
> * The [[varia section]] is for any material that does not fit in the
> previous sections.
>
>
> Final note: working with Wikis requires some learning... So, I am not
> sure at all that many R beginners will contribute to this wiki, but, of
> course, I hope so. Just let's pretend that it is a small experiment to
> try answering requests for another Internet space than R-Help,
> specifically dedicated to beginners...
>
> A good starting point would be the following: all people that expressed
> interesting points in this thread could "copy and paste their ideas" to
> new pages in the Wiki.
>
> Best,
>
> Philippe Grosjean
>
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> David Forrest wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Jan 2006, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >>In fact there are some things that are very easy
> >>to do in Stata and can be done in R but only with more difficulty.
> >>For example, consider this introductory session in Stata:
> >>
> >>http://www.stata.com/capabilities/session.html
> >>
> >>Looking at the first few queries,
> >>see how easy it is to take the top few in Stata whereas in R one would
> >>have a complex use of order. Its not hard in R to write a function
> >>that would make it just as easy but its not available off the top
> >>of one's head though RSiteSearch("sort.data.frame") will find one
> >>if one knew what to search for.
> >
> >
> > This sort of thing points to an opportunity for documentation. Building a
> > tutorial session in R on how one would do a similar analysis would provide
> > another method of learning R. "An Introduction to R" is a good bottom-up
> > introduction, which if you work through it does teach you how to do
> > several things. Adapting other tutorials or extended problems, like the
> > Stata session, to R would give additional entry points. A few end-to-end
> > tutorials on some interesting analyses would be helpful.
> >
> > Any volunteers?
> >
> > Dave
>
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