[R] I am surprised (and a little irritated) [Broadcast]

Liaw, Andy andy_liaw at merck.com
Wed Apr 19 21:48:56 CEST 2006


Or just go Quantian and be happy:  It has R and most of CRAN and BioC
packages included.

http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/quantian.html

Andy

From: Brett Magill
> 
> Better yet, forget reading the SUSE manual.  For a user at your level 
> who wants to begin with Linux, but also wants a system that 
> "just works" 
> use Ubuntu.  It is Debian based with the convenient apt-get 
> installation 
> system and very user-friendly.
> 
> Brett
> 
> www.ubuntu.com
> 
> Gabor Csardi wrote:
> > Tom,
> > 
> > I'm irritated as well. Your email should go to some suse 
> mailing list,
> > this is a suse problem, it has (almost) nothing to do with R.
> > 
> > Unfortunately i can't help you (even if i wanted), because i don't 
> > want to read the suse manuals. But if you want to use suse you may 
> > consider reading them.
> > 
> > Gabor
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 09:05:22PM +0200, Tom Backer Johnsen wrote:
> >> I have started with using R on Windows, and I am really happy about
> >> the system.  Now, one of my other ambitions is to learn how to use 
> >> Linux, so yesterday I downloaded OpenSuse and installed that.  The 
> >> next problem was to try to use R with Linux.  And there I met the 
> >> wall.  I've understood that RPM's are somewhat like installing 
> >> programs on Windows, so that was downloaded and started with YAST.
> >>
> >> And got some error messages about missing stuff.  The 
> first reactions
> >> is surprise -- there must be an error in the installation 
> procedure. 
> >> I have never (well, almost) met an installation procedure 
> on Windows 
> >> that did not include everything needed.  And the 
> installation of R on 
> >> Windows was very smooth.  Then I discover to my big 
> surprise that the 
> >> readme file says that I need to have eight installed 
> packages.  Then 
> >> it says "Most of them are included in a standard install".  Sigh. 
> >> Then the problem next is to find out which of the eight I 
> already have 
> >> and which ones I need to locate somewhere.  Where can I 
> find them I 
> >> wonder.  Somewhere on the net?  And that is how far I got today.
> >>
> >> So, one of the complaints I have is that the instructions for
> >> installing R on Linux are very cryptic, and to a large 
> extent assume 
> >> that you already know Linux.  Which I do not.  And I expect 
> >> instructions on installing should be simple and clear.  But I am a 
> >> very experienced computer user, so I really expect to be able to 
> >> understand instructions.  I cannot expect my students to 
> manage what I 
> >> cannot manage myself, so Linux is out, or at least Suse 
> Linux.  And 
> >> that is a pity, for a number of reasons.
> >>
> >> The second is just as much surprise at the installation procedure.
> >> Under Windows there are any number of installers which 
> make it easy 
> >> for a programmer to put together all the files needed and 
> place them 
> >> in the right place.
> >>
> >> And simeone should get the OpenSuse people to include R in the
> >> installation.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> +----------------------------------------------------------------+
> >> | Tom Backer Johnsen, Psychometrics Unit,  Faculty of Psychology | 
> >> | University of Bergen, Christies gt. 12, N-5015 Bergen,  NORWAY |
> >> | Tel : +47-5558-9185                        Fax : +47-5558-9879 |
> >> | Email : backer at psych.uib.no    URL : http://www.galton.uib.no/ |
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