[R] Order of messgaes/ missing messages

[Gabor Grothendieck]

Note that if this bothers you then you could try a web-based
email systems (e.g. yahoo, hotmail, etc.) to receive your r-help 
messages since the path to any of them would be independent of your 
particular location on the net.

Jim Brennan <jfbrennan <at> rogers.com> writes:

: Thanks for the answers. It is interesting. I had thought everything would go
: to a central server and then be sent out in order from there, but I guess I
: just don't get the topology of the web. 
:  I think there may be other issues though, since sometimes there are very
: long, what seem like random, delays.
: Jim
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Baskin, Robert" <RBaskin <at> ahrq.gov>
: To: "'Spencer Graves'" <spencer.graves <at> pdf.com>; "Jim Brennan"
: <jfbrennan <at> rogers.com>
: Cc: <r-help <at> stat.math.ethz.ch>
: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:38 PM
: Subject: RE: [R] Order of messgaes/ missing messages
: 
: 
: > It has to do with the topology of the web - if you are web-wise closer to
: > the responder than the original sender you can receive the answer before
: the
: > question - even if both answer and question go only to the list.
: >
: > I learned this suscribed to SAS-L when I was at UF - I was downstream from
: > Bob Hamer (then at VCU) who, at the time, seemed to answer many of the
: > questions on SAS-L.  He would get the questions quickly because at VCU he
: > was (web-wise) close to a source of sending - I would always get his
: > responses before the original question because he was my nearest neighbor
: on
: > the web - after he moved to Rutgers the whole phenomenon stopped  (and if
: I
: > recall John Williams became primary answerer).
: >
: > I wondered how long it would take before someone on this list asked about
: > it.  I see the answer before question phenomenon on this list quite
: strongly
: > and for me it is often Spencer Graves' answer I see first - like this one
: :)
: > Bob
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: Spencer Graves [mailto:spencer.graves <at> pdf.com]
: > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:13 PM
: > To: Jim Brennan
: > Cc: r-help <at> stat.math.ethz.ch
: > Subject: Re: [R] Order of messgaes/ missing messages
: >
: >
: >       Might this depend on whether someone responds to all or only to
: > the list?  If one responds to all, then the originator should receive 2
: > copies, If s/he subscribes to the list.  The copy via the list is often
: > delayed hours by the listserve.  Might this explain the issue?  spencer
: > graves
: >
: > Jim Brennan wrote:
: >
: > >I am curious as to why I quite often receive responses to questions on
: > >the help before receiving the actual question.
: > > For example Mr Graves has responded to Mr Lumley's response to Mr
: Wegelin
: > yet I  ave not received Mr. Lumley's post while I have received the other
: > two.
: > >
: > >Cheers,
: > >
: > >Jim
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