[Rd] Writing in R // R 4.2.0 on Windows doesn't work with Dasher

[Duncan Murdoch]

On 15/05/2022 5:01 p.m., Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote:
> It is interesting that Paulo reports Rgui to behave differently from 
> many (all?) other applications. However, I have no insight into Windows.

It's not a big surprise.  Rgui uses a UI library (Graphapp) that was 
written a very long time ago, and it hasn't adopted their updates in at 
least 15 years.  Additionally, Rgui hasn't really had any Windows users 
giving it the attention it needs.

And not nearly "all".  RStudio has different problems, which means 
everyone using the same UI library they use probably has them too.  I 
didn't see any open source projects in the list of things that work.

Duncan Murdoch

> 
> Best,
> Kasper
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 3:32 PM Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan using gmail.com 
> <mailto:murdoch.duncan using gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     On 15/05/2022 2:44 p.m., Ben Bolker wrote:
>      >     I don't know if there's a good up-to-date list anywhere of
>      > editors/IDEs that handle R nicely, but it would include at least:
>      >
>      >     Atom
>      >     Sublime Text
>      >     VS Code
>      >     RStudio
>      >     Jupyter notebooks
>      >     vim
>      >     emacs
>      >     Tinn-R
>      >
>      >     It's worth being able to choose from such a list both for general
>      > aesthetic preferences, and for those with accessibility challenges.
> 
>     One more that I should have mentioned:  StatET, a plug-in for the
>     Eclipse IDE.
> 
>      >
>      >    I do agree that it would be nice if there were a way to make the R
>      > console work well with Dasher under Windows, but the technical
>     details
>      > are completely beyond me.
> 
>     A long time ago I used to know some of this stuff, but now I find
>     working in Windows quite difficult.  I never knew it well enough to
>     know
>     the advantages and disadvantages of the approach RGui uses versus the
>     one that dasher seems to be expecting.
> 
>     On the hopeful side, accessibility has always had a relatively high
>     priority in the R Project, and there seems to be a recent push in that
>     direction.  Perhaps there will be an opportunity for someone to
>     bring up
>     this issue at useR! 2022 (https://user2022.r-project.org
>     <https://user2022.r-project.org>).
> 
>     Duncan Murdoch
> 
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> Best,
> Kasper