[Rd] idea for GSoC: an R package for fitting Bayesian Hierarchical Models
Antonio, Fabio Di Narzo
antonio.fabio at gmail.com
Mon Mar 24 10:47:21 CET 2008
Above all,
tnx Ben for taking time to read about my proposal!
2008/3/24, Ben Bolker <bolker at ufl.edu>:
> Antonio, Fabio Di Narzo <antonio.fabio <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
> >
> > I've put online a temp web page with some more info (and sources):
> >
> > http://antonio.fabio.googlepages.com/rgs%3Athergibbssampler
> >
> > Bests,
> > Antonio.
> >
>
>
> Have you seen Jouni Kerman's Umacs package? It sounds similar
> in spirit.
Ya. But speeds are rather different.
I admittely missed a comparison with Umacs in my short demo.
However, from some early experiments (I'm doing while I'm writing), as
I suspected, my approach results being many times faster than Umacs,
even if one doesn't specify samplers as C code. Things goes even
better for my demo implementation if one tries to plug in samplers
specified as pure C code, which would further eliminate a lot of
memory allocations/deallocations behind those "rnorm()".
My aim is to obtain something which achieves decent speed, compared
with JAGS. I mean, I can easily experiment new samplers by using an
interpreted language, but if at the end I obtain something which is
*many* times slower than JAGS (which is moreover much more robust and
easier to work with), the whole stuff results being of little pratical
interest.
More: how can one really experiment a new custom sampler if doing some
thousands iterations takes forever, so that checking your sampler
pratical behaviour is a pain (I speak about my personal experience)?
That's why I want to always keep attention on speed, and give the
possibility to the user to either use R or C code at his choice, with
the ability to modify model node values in place, without unneeded
'malloc's. Ya, I would abandon pure functional style...
I will try to add a reproducible benchmark comparing my demo
implementation with JAGS and Umacs. However, I see that the problem
here is still finding someone interested in it at all.
>
> Something I would love to see done (not that I have the time
> and energy to supervise someone to do it right now) would be
> an R (or Python/etc.: R wouldn't necessarily be the best tool)
> to translate lmer/nlme syntax (Wilkinson-Rogers with extensions
> for specifying random factors, correlation structures, etc.)
> into a BUGS file. It strikes me that it would be a really nice
> way to bridge the gap between what mixed-model code can do
> and what requires BUGS/MCMC. Such models could also serve as
> (1) a way to cross-check the results of mixed model code;
> (2) a way to get started in relaxing the assumptions of mixed
> models (e.g. allowing for non-normal random effects distributions).
That sounds interesting. However, I currenlty don't have enough
know-how to work at something like it now.
Antonio.
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> Ben Bolker
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