[BioC] Questions about Disease Progression Analysis
LiGang
luzifer.li at gmail.com
Tue May 20 04:08:21 CEST 2008
Sean Davis <sdavis2 at ...> writes:
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 5:00 AM, LiGang <luzifer.li at ...> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am using cDNA two-channel array to study gene profiling of 5 different
> > stages of thyroid disease. Was there any Bioconductor package to perform
> > such disease progression analysis?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have found packages such as
> > "maSigPro<http://bioconductor.org/packages/2.2/bioc/html/maSigPro.html>
> > " "Mfuzz <http://bioconductor.org/packages/2.2/bioc/html/Mfuzz.html>" and"
> > timecourse
<http://bioconductor.org/packages/2.2/bioc/html/timecourse.html>"
> > to perform Microarray Time Course Data analysis, can these methods be used
> > to carry out disease progression data analysis?
>
> Hi, LiGang. There is a real temptation to think of disease stage as a
> process that occurs in an ordered fashion. That is, stage I disease
> is just early enough that it has not progressed to stage II, etc. I
> think that there is plenty of evidence that this not always (or even
> often) the case, so I would be hesitant to treat the stages of thyroid
> disease as a disease progression.
>
> As for time course analysis, it usually examines the behavior of genes
> in the same sample(s) over time; you will likely not have the same
> person who has multiple stages of thyroid disease, so I am not sure
> that these methods will be applicable in your situation, anyway.
>
> Do you have clinical followup data? Other clinical covariates? And
> how many samples do you have in your dataset? All of these are
> important questions that can guide the hypotheses that you might want
> to test.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Sean
>
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Dear Sean,
Thanks for your reply!
In fact, there are no clinical parameters except the qualitative stage
information.
Experiment details are listed below:
Chip Stage sample
================================
Chip_1 Stage 1 mouse_1_thyroid
Chip_2 Stage 1 mouse_2_thyroid
Chip_3 Stage 1 mouse_3_thyroid
Chip_4 Stage 1 mouse_4_thyroid
----------------------------------------------------
Chip_5 Stage 2 mouse_5_thyroid
Chip_6 Stage 2 mouse_6_thyroid
Chip_7 Stage 2 mouse_7_thyroid
Chip_8 Stage 2 mouse_8_thyroid
----------------------------------------------------
Chip_9 Stage 3 mouse_9_thyroid
Chip_10 Stage 3 mouse_10_thyroid
Chip_11 Stage 3 mouse_11_thyroid
Chip_12 Stage 3 mouse_12_thyroid
----------------------------------------------------
Chip_13 Stage 4 mouse_13_thyroid
Chip_14 Stage 4 mouse_14_thyroid
Chip_15 Stage 4 mouse_15_thyroid
Chip_16 Stage 4 mouse_16_thyroid
----------------------------------------------------
Chip_17 Stage 5 mouse_17_thyroid
Chip_18 Stage 5 mouse_18_thyroid
Chip_19 Stage 5 mouse_19_thyroid
Chip_20 Stage 5 mouse_20_thyroid
================================
and all 20 hybridizations use the same common reference sample (pooled samples
of normal tissues from the above 20 mice).
My aim is to identify genes that are up-regulated or down-regulated as thyroid
disease progresses and even whether there exist genes which have a specific
trend.
Is it rational to:
1) perform pairwise comparisons
2) Select the Union set of all genes whose expression level changed
between any arbitrary pairwise comparisons.
3) Do cluster analysis to see the trends.
---
LiGang
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