[BioC] Problem running eBayes/lmFit

[elliott harrison]

Hi Saroj,

I see so multiple arrays in each group are needed.
So I'll need to do some simpler test between the 2 arrays?
Any suggestions?

Thanks

Elliott 
 

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From: smohapat at vbi.vt.edu [mailto:smohapat at vbi.vt.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:07 PM
To: elliott harrison
Cc: bioconductor at stat.math.ethz.ch
Subject: Re: [BioC] Problem running eBayes/lmFit

Hello Elliott:

I am trying to understand the problem here. From the design:

> A9802 A9811 A9813 A9842 SAMPLE1 SAMPLE2 SAMPLE3 SAMPLE4
> 1     0     0     0     0       1       0       0       0
> 2     0     0     0     0       0       1       0       0
> 3     0     0     0     0       0       0       1       0
> 4     0     0     0     0       0       0       0       1
> 5     1     0     0     0       0       0       0       0
> 6     0     1     0     0       0       0       0       0
> 7     0     0     1     0       0       0       0       0
> 8     0     0     0     1       0       0       0       0

I understand that there is one sample of A9802(#5) and another of
SAMPLE1 (#1).

In the contrasts, these two groups are compared (OneVOne):
> makeContrasts(OneVOne="A9802-SAMPLE1",OneVTwo="A9802-A9811",TwoVOne="S
> AM
> PLE1-SAMPLE2",levels=design)
>

I guess that because of the number of samples in each group being one,
it is not possible to calculate variance, and hence the error message.

This is how I understood Gordon's earlier post
(https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/bioconductor/2005-May/009056.html):

------------
The "no residual degrees of freedom" message occurs because you have
filtered out so many spots (by setting the weight to 0) that you have no
more than one spot left for any of the probes.
Hence there is no replication left in your experiment.  No estimate of
variability can be made and no statistical analysis can be done.
-------------

If anyone knows more clearly, please elaborate.

Saroj

> The matrix seems to be doing what I want
>
>
>> cont.matrix
> Contrasts
> Levels    OneVOne OneVTwo TwoVOne
> A9802         1       1       0
> A9811         0      -1       0
> A9813         0       0       0
> A9842         0       0       0
> SAMPLE1      -1       0       1
> SAMPLE2       0       0      -1
> SAMPLE3       0       0       0
> SAMPLE4       0       0       0
>
>
>> fit2  <- contrasts.fit(fit, cont.matrix) fit2  <- eBayes(fit2)
> Error in ebayes(fit = fit, proportion = proportion, stdev.coef.lim =
> stdev.coef.lim) : No residual degrees of freedom in linear model fits
>
>
> I've found a post that says this error message occurs because all data

> is weighted out. I've checked the data after it is loaded, after 
> backgroundCorrect and it does not appear to be. Beyond that I doesn't 
> look like the normalizeBetweenArrays of RTotalbg$R RTRN has any 
> weights. So I must not be setting up the design matrix correctly?
>
> Any and all clues as to where I'm going wrong greatly appreciated.
>
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