[BioC] illumina --> limma?
Mark Dunning
md392 at cam.ac.uk
Fri Aug 25 17:04:47 CEST 2006
So just to clarify, here is the situation regarding BeadArray raw data.
If you have made the appropriate tweaks to the BeadScan software then
you should get a text file that look like this (for each array/strip);
Code Grn GrnX GrnY
50008 796 536.5297 3167.486
50008 495 1574.66 12360.35
50008 706 2120.334 14611.3
50008 519 1493.311 17420.35
50008 938 1549.49 11478.03
50008 612 1989.498 4735.532
50008 744 1073.537 15349.49
..........
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For instructions on how to make the tweaks in BeadScan go to
http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/npt22
On that page you will find an xml file to replace the existing
Settings.xml file within the BeadScan program directory
Note that these steps can only be used before scanning new arrays. I
don't know of any way to recover the x and y coordinates for arrays
that have been previously scanned.
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As Sean notes, each bead is identified by a Code and not a TargetID
as seen in the BeadStudio output. This is annoying, but it is
possible to match up the two identifiers using the bead set manifest
that Illumina distributes on their cd's when they give the arrays
(its a csv file).
The Grn column gives the bead intensity that has been calculated
using Illumina image processing methods which include a "sharpening"
transformation and a local background correction. It is possible for
both these steps to produce negative values. The beadarray package is
able to use the TIF images and the X and Y coordinates from the text
file to calculate bead intensities. It is possible to re-create the
steps that Illumina use although we store the local foreground and
background for each bead separately so that background correction is
optional. We are also looking to implement a method of background
estimation using morphological filtering.
We have only just seen this new text format for ourselves, so the
code to read these files is only available in the latest version of
beadarray in the developers section.
So in summary, with the Code, X and Y information plus the .tif
image, you can re-create the Illumina image analysis yourself to get
raw intensities at the probe level using the beadarray package.
Currently this takes around 1min for each array (strip) i.e. about
10-15mins for each chip [ 3Ghz machine with 3GB ram].
Hope this helps,
Mark
On 25 Aug 2006, at 14:55, Stefano Calza wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 09:42:36AM -0400, Sean Davis wrote:
> <Sean>Mark,
> <Sean>
> <Sean>Have you made any headway with Illumina regarding getting
> data that is
> <Sean>closer to "raw" but still useful? We are getting the probe-
> level data
> <Sean>dumped from our (which I think is NOT background-subtracted,
> but correct me
> <Sean>if I am wrong), but these data do not conform to the usual
> Illumina output
> <Sean>(different unique ids for the probes), so I really haven't
> given much
> <Sean>thought to using them, particularly since I can't convince
> our collaborators
> <Sean>to make hacks of their scanner config file to get the dumps
> for all the data
> <Sean>we receive.
> <Sean>
>
>
> I guess we are getting something like that, but afaik the dumps are
> already somehow corrected (and I get some negative values). The
> scanner itself may do some background correction when dumping numbers.
> You may need to use the raw scanned image, but it may not be
> possible (if not through an agreement with Illumia).
>
> I'm just trying to understand what's in this data, so correct me if
> I'm wrong.
>
> Regards,
> Stefano
>
> --
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> Dipartimento di Scienze Biomediche e Biotecnologie
> Università degli Studi di Brescia - Italy
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