[BioC] multiple testing with 54000 genes
James W. MacDonald
jmacdon at med.umich.edu
Thu Feb 17 16:10:43 CET 2005
Dipl.-Ing. Johannes Rainer wrote:
> hi,
>
> i wanted to ask if someone has experience in multiple testing with a
> large number of genes.
>
> i have in total 24 Affymetrix chips (hgu133plus2), 12 patients, for
> every patient an 0 hours and 6 hours after treatment sample. i
> calculated p values using permutation (mt.maxT function with
> test="pairt") and corrected for multiple testing using the Benjamini
> Hochberg method. the problem is, that with that large number of tests
> (54675 genes and therefore 54675 tests) after adjusting the p values no
> gene shows a "significant" difference.
>
> i will now reduce the number of genes to test to get to some results.
> has anyone experienced similar problems?
You probably don't have enough samples to use a permuted null
distribution. I believe the smallest p-value you can get with a permuted
null is going to be ~0.00024, which may not be small enough to survive a
multiplicity correction with that many genes. I would imagine you would
get better results if you used a parametric null (e.g., using the limma
package).
Best,
Jim
>
> thanks, jo
>
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