[BioC] get over it/WAKE uP and SMELL the COFFEE
Naomi Altman
naomi at stat.psu.edu
Thu Dec 18 16:44:07 MET 2003
Currently I am telling the biologists to consider microarrays as screening
experiments. Mostly, they use the results for second stage analyses, which
may be:
e.g. statistical analyses such as clustering etc
bioinformatics analyses such as GO, BLAST or sequence analyses
lab analyses such as Northern blots, in situs, etc
Given the huge number of genes on most arrays, I do want a reasonably
reliable method of screening. On the other hand, I sometimes just rank the
genes by test score, rather than attempt to determine some suitable
alpha-level, FDR or FNR.
Incidentally, distinguishing between technical replicates and biological
replicates can make a huge different to ANOVA test scores, so I think we
should insist that our analyses should account for this.
--Naomi
At 09:09 AM 12/18/2003, Stephen Henderson wrote:
>I agree with some of WHAT you say CHAD, the PROBLEM is THAT MOST
>multiVARIATE methods are BUILt on top OF the marginal tests. FOR instance
>machine learning methods are based on gene subsets for each of k CROSS
>validations. USE of the appropriate TEST (fold/T/F/cyber-T/etc..)for subset
>selection is IMHO the most IMPORTANT!! choice .
>
>
>Stephen
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