[Bioc-devel] [EXTERNAL] Deeptarget package

Nguyen, Trinh (NIH/NCI) [C] t|nh@nguyen @end|ng |rom n|h@gov
Mon Jul 8 23:23:20 CEST 2024


Dear Dr. Kristian,

We consulted with experts at our NIH/NCI here and per their suggestion, we have added the following paragraph to the description and document of Workflow Demonstration as below:
“The user of this package is required to agree to the terms and conditions of DepMap portal (https://depmap.org/portal/).  Some of these terms and conditions are problematic for U.S. Federal Government employees, and they should consult their technology transfer office/legal office before agreeing to such terms and conditions”

Best,

Trinh

From: Kristian Ullrich <ullrich using evolbio.mpg.de>
Date: Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 1:45 AM
To: Nguyen, Trinh (NIH/NCI) [C] <tinh.nguyen using nih.gov>
Cc: Laurent Gatto <laurent.gatto using uclouvain.be>, Kern, Lori <Lori.Shepherd using RoswellPark.org>, bioc-devel using r-project.org <bioc-devel using r-project.org>
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [Bioc-devel] Deeptarget package
Dear Nguyen,

Thank you for your response.

I am just a bit puzzled, and no other developer has answered so far.

E.g. in the description of the depmap package it says:

"This data is distributed under the Creative Commons license (Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0))."

Anyhow if you visit the original source database it comes with the Terms and conditions that one need to agree and it says specifically:

"Governing Law
The terms and conditions herein shall be construed, governed, interpreted, and applied in accordance with the internal laws of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, U.S.A. Furthermore, by accessing, downloading, or using the Database, You consent to the personal jurisdiction of, and venue in, the state and federal courts within Massachusetts with respect to Your download or use of the Database."
So if it comes to law, it does not matter, that you just use a subset of the original data or that you just get it from another source, since the statement is kind of very clear.

I do not see any kind of agreement in the depmap package nor a "warning" statement, like "by using this package you agree on the following terms …"

So how to deal correctly (legally and code-wise) in this situation?

Best regards

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On 12. Jun 2024, at 15:53, Nguyen, Trinh (NIH/NCI) [C] <tinh.nguyen using nih.gov<mailto:tinh.nguyen using nih.gov>> wrote:

Dear Kristian,

This is very important question. Thanks for checking in. The manuscript is under review, and I believe that we already agreed and followed to Depmap’s policies. The input data we used in this package here contains only a subset of the data we used in the manuscript, and it is for demonstration how the package works. In addition to this, Deeptarget does have a function to pull out the data from Depmap and it is called Depmap2DeepTarget. I think this is where your concern is coming from.  This function we incorporated the Depmap package from @Laurent Gatto<mailto:laurent.gatto using uclouvain.be> which allows users to download data from depmap.org<http://depmap.org/>.  Therefore, I would love to leave this for  @Laurent Gatto<mailto:laurent.gatto using uclouvain.be> to chime in to address your concern.

Thanks,

Trinh

From: Kristian Ullrich <ullrich using evolbio.mpg.de<mailto:ullrich using evolbio.mpg.de>>
Date: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 at 2:42 AM
To: Nguyen, Trinh (NIH/NCI) [C] <tinh.nguyen using nih.gov<mailto:tinh.nguyen using nih.gov>>
Cc: Kern, Lori <Lori.Shepherd using RoswellPark.org<mailto:Lori.Shepherd using RoswellPark.org>>, bioc-devel using r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel using r-project.org> <bioc-devel using r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel using r-project.org>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Bioc-devel] Deeptarget package
Dear Nguyen,

I have a question related to the data that you use and I just bring it up here since I would also like to ask the bioconductor developers, how this can be handled properly.

The depmap.org<http://depmap.org/> portal has a clear "Terms and Condition" statement that you need to agree on if one uses any of the data that is provided by the portal. (See below) So one need to click a "I agree" button to stick to their policies.

How have you managed that a user of your package first send this agreement to the depmap.org<http://depmap.org/> portal once the user uses data from the portal?

Thank you in anticipation

Best regards

Kristian

Here is their policy:

"
Terms and Conditions
By using this site, you agree to our terms and conditions below.
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On 11. Jun 2024, at 20:04, Nguyen, Trinh (NIH/NCI) [C] via Bioc-devel <bioc-devel using r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel using r-project.org>> wrote:

Thank You!

Trinh

From: Kern, Lori <Lori.Shepherd using RoswellPark.org<mailto:Lori.Shepherd using RoswellPark.org>>
Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 at 12:19 PM
To: bioc-devel using r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel using r-project.org> <bioc-devel using r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel using r-project.org>>, Nguyen, Trinh (NIH/NCI) [C] <tinh.nguyen using nih.gov<mailto:tinh.nguyen using nih.gov>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Deeptarget package
Two things:


 1.   The package was accepted on Friday.  Currently our software builds are only building twice a week Tue and Fri. You can see the schedule of all the different builds at https://bioconductor.org/checkResults/.  Eventually devel Bioc will go back to daily builds but there are some configurations we are currently working on. Once the package builds/checks cleanly on the daily builder it will then be available (likely later today)


 1.  Your package will only be available in Bioc devel 3.19 until the fall release as newly accepted package are placed until devel until a full release announcement.



Lori Shepherd - Kern

Bioconductor Core Team

Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center

Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics

Elm & Carlton Streets

Buffalo, New York 14263

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From: Bioc-devel <bioc-devel-bounces using r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel-bounces using r-project.org>> on behalf of Nguyen, Trinh (NIH/NCI) [C] via Bioc-devel <bioc-devel using r-project.org<mailto:bioc-devel using r-project.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 12:10 PM
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Subject: [Bioc-devel] Deeptarget package

Dear Bioconductor team,

Deeptarget package has been accepted. However, when I installed it has error of �package �DeepTarget� is not available for Bioconductor version '3.18'�

Could you please give me some guidance?

Thanks,

Trinh


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