[R-wiki] Beginner - Intermediate - Advanced indicator

[Tony Plate]

I was wondering what those icons were the first few times I saw them, 
and then it took me a little time to look them up.

I suggest using just ordinary words in parenthesis or brackets, e.g.:

[beginner] [elementary]
[intermediate] [common skill] [everyday skill]
[advanced] [expert] [arcane]

I do think there is an advantage to keeping consistent terminology.

Maybe those "--+" markup items could be translated to some choice of the 
above, with some mild text coloring.

-- Tony Plate

Philippe Grosjean wrote:
> Yes, I think also that the stars is too much related with the rating of 
> the page in term of quality (because it is widely used that way in many 
> web sites).
> 
> Regarding the bar, that was my first trial: a bar with a third being 
> green, another third being orange and the last third being red for the 
> three levels. To switch off a part of it, I draw it in gray. However, 
> the result was graphically very poor, and it was even less explicit than 
> the little user icons currently proposed.
> 
> Otherwise, it is certain that putting "Difficulty:" in front of the 
> icons would be more explicit, as well as a key in the start page. I try 
> this... There is now an explanation in the start page + a "Difficulty:" 
> added to 
> http://www.sciviews.org/_rgui/wiki/doku.php?id=beginners:surprises:emptysetfuncs. 
> I find the later one rather ennoying (the purpose of the icons is to 
> spot the skill level visually very rapidly,.. so users *have* to 
> understand their meaning anyway, and then, it is clear for them that it 
> relates to the "difficulty" of the page...).
> 
> For the three levels, I don't think it is too detailled if you define 
> them like that:
> 
> - beginner is really, really basic stuff (something that looks like 
> trivial and uninteresting for people that use R for a little time... 
> except if "intermediate" is also "ON").
> 
> - intermediate is dedicated to most R users.
> 
> - advanced is reserved for expert tricks, that is something 95% of R 
> users don't need at all for doing they job.
> 
> With this definition of "beginner" - "intermediate" - "advanced", I 
> think it is more evident why this level of details is useful.
> 
> Perhaps the terms are not adequate.
> - I like "beginner" because it clearly state that the stuff there is not 
> of much interest for someone who already played a little bit with R.
> 
> - "intermediate" is definitely not a good term for "usual users" [Erk! 
> Do usual users use to use R usually? ;-)] ... but I don't find a better one.
> 
> - "advanced" could perhaps be replaced by "expert" to insist that it 
> really relate to something very, very difficult ?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Philippe Grosjean
> 
> 
> Gavin Simpson wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 21:47 +1100, paul sorenson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What about a star rating 1-5?
>>
>>
>>I was thinking the same thing, but then I thought that stars convey some
>>measure of quality, which is not what is intended.
>>
>>My main concern with the current icon is that there is no context, it is
>>not immediately apparent what it refers to without resorting to the
>>syntax page.
>>
>>This definitely needs a title or prefix text, something like
>>"Difficulty". 
>>
>>How about a simple bar with three or more levels of difficulty indicated
>>by the length of the bar?
>>
>>Do we also need the fine-grained options of marking a page as
>>intermediate/advanced but not for beginners? Should such pages be marked
>>advanced (or intermediate) difficulty and not worry about trying to
>>exclude (wrong word) beginners?
>>
>>G
>>
>>
>>
>>>Philippe Grosjean wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>Although the R Wiki site would primarily be dedicated to beginners, 
>>>>there is already, and there will be in the future several pages dealing 
>>>>with more advanced topics.
>>>>
>>>>In order to spot this, I propose little icons easy to integrate in the 
>>>>pages (for instance :--+: means something dedicated exclusively to 
>>>>experts, see: "Smileys & other icons in 
>>>>http://www.sciviews.org/_rgui/wiki/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax).
>>>>
>>>>You can see examples of using these indicators at:
>>>>http://www.sciviews.org/_rgui/wiki/doku.php?id=rtips:data:import
>>>>and 
>>>>http://www.sciviews.org/_rgui/wiki/doku.php?id=beginners:surprises:emptysetfuncs
>>>>for instance.
>>>>
>>>>What do you think about it? Personnally, I found them nice when I did 
>>>>draw the icons, but they look a little "toyish" once integrated in the 
>>>>Wiki pages. Does someone have a better idea to help spotting items 
>>>>related to each user's skill?
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>
>>>>Philippe Grosjean
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