[R-wiki] Gelman's comments about R tips vs Wiki

Gabor Grothendieck ggrothendieck at gmail.com
Sun Apr 23 12:35:03 CEST 2006


Each tip should be one (or a small number of lines) for the description
and one line (or a small number of lines) for the answer -- not pages.
Look at Paul Johnson's original organization and its quite clear its
superior for both browsing and searching.

On 4/23/06, Gavin Simpson <gavin.simpson at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 05:57 -0400, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
> > On 4/23/06, Philippe Grosjean <phgrosjean at sciviews.org> wrote:
> > > Tony Plate wrote:
> > >  > [...] (see hereunder for full post)
> > >  > However, maybe this can be partially addressed by having larger index
> > >  > pages, each one pointing to many different small example pages. [...]
> > >
> > > Exactly! Speaking about "browsing" the tips, the key is not to have all
> > > tips on one page, but an i
ndex, table of content, summary, or
> > > whatever-you-call-it page. You browse that page and click on the links
> > > you want. This is more effective than browsing tens of thousands of
> > > lines to discover that the tips you are looking for is the forelast one,
> > > that is, the 9,999th one!
> > >
> >
> > You want to browse the code itself, not just an index.  The way
> > you learn R is to look at a lot of code and not by having to waste
> > time jumping to dozens or hundreds of different pages.
>
> Gabor
>
> /you/ might learn R best that way, but I doubt many people will. From my
> own experience and from teaching R to colleagues and with students on
> short courses is that they like a reasonable grounding in the basics to
> allow them to get started, and then when they started doing their own
> thing they want to ask "how do I do x?" Scanning a list of tips allows
> them to drill down to the few items that sound like they might answer
> their question. People don't want to read page after page of code -
> especially on a screen - just to find the one sentence or line of code
> that will help them solve their immediate problem.
>
> G
>
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