[R-sig-teaching] importing and processing large datasets in R (fwd)

[Monte Milanuk]

How about 'r-sig-edu' for Education - should be obvious enough to
faculty, teaching staff, etc., and 'r-sig-novice' (or -tutor) which
would probably 'jump out' as the obvious choice to a new user trying
to choose which list to subscribe and post to...

Monte

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Jeff Laux <jefflaux at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the kinds of confusions that prompted this discussion are normal,
> and may not be something to fret over.  That said, I support the idea of
> another appropriate SIG.  However, r-sig-teaching & r-sig-tutor are going to
> elicit more of these same kinds of confusions.  We should use
> r-sig-forstatisticseducation and r-sig-fornovices, instead.
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2013 11:08 AM, Christopher W. Ryan wrote:
>>
>> I'd participate actively in an "R-tutor" mailing list.
>>
>> --Chris
>>
>> Christopher W. Ryan, MD, MS
>> SUNY Upstate Medical University Clinical Campus at Binghamton
>> 425 Robinson Street, Binghamton, NY  13904
>> cryanatbinghamtondotedu
>>
>> "Once we recognize that we do not err out of laziness, stupidity, or
>> evil intent, we can liberate ourselves from the impossible burden of
>> trying to be permanently right. We can take seriously the proposition
>> that we could be in error, without deeming ourselves idiotic or
>> unworthy." [Karen Schulz, in Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of
>> Error]
>>
>>
>> R. Michael Weylandt wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Monte Milanuk <memilanuk at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Bob,
>>>>
>>>> I'm one of those who follow the list mainly out of curiosity, not
>>>> because I have any connection with teaching stats.  My goal was to
>>>> keep an eye out for some of the occasional posts where people post
>>>> useful links or material that they use in teaching... but I understand
>>>> the frustration with the frequent off-topic requests for help learning
>>>> R.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if yet another mailing list would be worth considering...
>>>> but for comparison, in the Python world there is a SIG for Education,
>>>> very similar to this one... and there is a SIG/mailing list called
>>>> 'python-tutor', specifically for people asking beginner type
>>>> questions, or who maybe don't want to brave the 'main' list and its
>>>> denizens just yet because they still need/want some hand-holding.
>>>> There is very little off-topic discussion on the Edu list, and
>>>> neophytes have a kiddie pool that they feel welcome in.
>>>>
>>>> I know the R community seems to kind of enjoy the occasional
>>>> snarkiness on the main list by certain posters, and I've certainly
>>>> been around the 'Net long enough to have developed a thick enough skin
>>>> myself, but for new users it may be a bit intimidating.  Maybe an
>>>> 'R-Novice' or 'R-Tutor' list would open up an intermediate ground for
>>>> beginners and reduce the 'pollution' of the R-Teaching list?
>>>>
>>> It's a topic that's been discussed many times before on R-help, with
>>> the usual outcome being some feeling that it would lower the quality
>>> of responses that newbies get. I'm not sure it's an argument I buy,
>>> but if you want to raise the topic again, I can certainly promise to
>>> be active (enough) on R-Tutor.
>>>
>>> There might also be some value in thinking of an R-Statistics list
>>> (though under a much better name) where statistical questions are fair
>>> game -- it's always seemed odd to me that data munging is a fair topic
>>> on the various R lists, while data analysis isn't.
>>>
>>> Just throwing it out there,
>>>
>>> MW
>>>
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