This is a response to the thread by Adam Smith posted on November-15-12 about lmer (lme4) and glmmADMB generating very different residuals but identical or similar estimates of fixed and random effects. The response was that it was fixed in glmmADMB version 0.7.3. 

I have now installed glmmADMB version 0.7.4 and R version 3.0.0, but still seem to get vastly different residuals for what appear to be identical models in lmer and glmmADMB.

I can post details and data if needed but the situation seems to be the same as described in Adam's thread here:

http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/rOz2zG8Xv59S4TU6NnYl

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Elinor
 		 	   		  
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